Directory:Jonas Rand

2011-03-24T07:33:15Z

Jonas Rand: I have now removed this address, as the jonasrand @ hushmail.com address is defunct. This is because I neglected to log in less than every 21 days, and it shut down.

Directory:Jonas Rand

2011-03-24T07:31:39Z

Jonas Rand: I do not support the aims of this site anymore, or all that President Chávez is doing.

User talk:MyWikiBiz

2011-01-21T02:35:20Z

Jonas Rand: /* e-mail */ new section

2010-03-07T02:45:35Z

Jonas Rand: trying out this keyword pixel thing

*'''27 March 2004''': [[Directory:David Boothroyd|David Boothroyd]] begins editing, as [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20061007083231&limit=500&contribs=user&target=Fys "Dbiv"], making his first edit to a Wikipedia talk page for the article on a British general election.
*'''20 January 2005''': After making over 2000 edits, User:Dbiv successfully becomes an administrator as a result of a self-nomination.
*'''15 February 2006''': Dbiv is blocked for a purported violation of the Three Revert Rule, whereupon he unblocks himself using administrative tools, giving the reason ''"Yes, I know I am not supposed to do this. Justification 1: Block was wrongly applied. Justification 2: I have a major edit which I am not going to lose come what may. WP:IAR applies."''
*'''9 June 2006''': Dbiv enters himself into the arbitration case regarding Irishpunktom. Prior to that, he commenced working on a "Draft RFC [request for comment]" on Irishpunktom, who he had edit-warred with in the past. The focus of the arbitration is an editing dispute that Dbiv and Irishpunktom have regarding the article Peter Tatchell. The arbitration results in the removal of Dbiv's administrative tools; additionally, among the Arbitration Committee's findings is that Dbiv's unblocking of himself was an abuse of administrative tools.
*'''21 August 2006''': Dbiv creates the User:DavidBoothroyd account, stating that it is to be used solely for editing his biography (at the time, he was the subject of a biographical article).
*'''27 August 2006''': Tony Sidaway blocks Dbiv for a week, for knowingly violating the ArbCom restriction by editing the Peter Tatchell article.
*'''31 August 2006''': Boothroyd logs in to the DavidBoothroyd account, using it as a sock puppet account to evade the one-week block and report User:Calton to the "Personal attacks noticeboard". His usage of the account contradicts the statements that he made about the purpose of the account. Boothroyd says about the usage of the account for purposes not previously outlined:

<blockquote style="margin-left: 11%; margin-right: 11%">"I registered this account solely so I would be able to correct material inaccuracies in my own biography. However, I now find myself forced to resort to it to action this change, which I am explicitly allowed to do: I want all talk to go to [[User talk:Dbiv]]. If you need to leave messages about [[User:80.177.212.6]] do so at the user page, not the talk page. This seems perfectly fair to m e. Meanwhile Calton is being disruptive. He is not an admin and has no role in any of this."</blockquote>
*'''7 October 2006''': User:Dbiv is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Changing_username/Archive16#Dbiv_.E2.86.92_Fys renamed] to "Fys" upon his request, citing concerns about the connection to his real-life identity.
*'''4 December 2006''': After Fys re-creates the User:Dbiv account to avoid impersonation, he uses it to create a userpage for User:Dbiv, with the cryptic text "I have laid down this title and do go by another." This gives the appearance of a user who had "retired", and decided to come back under a different account (rather than just being renamed). When an unrelated user later asks him what it was, he reverts the edit with the summary "none of your business".

*'''12 December 2006''': User:Sam_Blacketer is [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=newusers&user=&page=User%3ASam+Blacketer&year=&month=-1&tagfilter=&hide_patrol_log=1 registered]. Keeps a very low profile, shows intricate knowledge of MediaWiki, displays experience with Wikipedia. Begins with work on London boroughs; in one day uploads a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Windlecat.jpg photo of his cat], creating a userpage displaying the photo. This is an undeclared sockpuppet of Fys, which was created and used actively in conjunction with the Fys account.

*Meanwhile, as "Fys", his Wikipedia activity is characterized by a sizable period of personal attacks, rudeness, and other less-than-friendly behavior. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=St_Catharine%27s_College,_Cambridge&diff=prev&oldid=97631134] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Husnock/Workshop&diff=prev&oldid=97440075] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:George_Galloway&diff=prev&oldid=137683129] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Paul_Staines&diff=next&oldid=108642014]

*'''3 February 2007''': As activity by the Fys account declines and the Sam_Blacketer account accumulates edits, a user asks what Dbiv's new username is after viewing the User:Dbiv page. Although it was quite obvious that Dbiv was Fys, which is what was initially meant by "I have laid down this title and do go by another", no link was made to the Sam_Blacketer account. Within seconds, Fys (as Dbiv) reverts the user with "none of your business". On that day, Fys makes 4 edits and Sam_Blacketer makes two.

*'''28 April 2007''': Boothroyd again successfully passes a request for adminship after a self-nomination, this time as Sam_Blacketer. The self-nomination RFA passes 57-5-3, support-oppose-neutral. At this time, the only personal information revealed about this user is that he is from the United Kingdom.

*'''10 November 2007''': Editing by the Fys account ceases as all focus is placed on the Sam_Blacketer personality.

*'''24 November 2007''': Boothroyd hurls aspersions at [[Directory:Gregory J. Kohs|Gregory Kohs]], the founder of [[Directory:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]]. On a mailing list maintained by the [[Directory:Wikimedia Foundation|Wikimedia Foundation]], Boothroyd [http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2007-November/085890.html sneered], "I hope Greg Kohs is sick as a parrot." When reprimanded for this being a gratuitous comment, Boothroyd only upped the ante from behind his protective cloak of fake identity, saying that both MyWikiBiz's business transactions and content were "[http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2007-November/085892.html not ethical]".

*'''17 December 2007''': Sam_Blacketer is elected as a member of the Wikipedia Arbitration Committee, being the only arbitrator that has not provided identification to the Wikimedia Foundation (Cary Bass). This is only a year after the Sam_Blacketer account was created.

*'''11 November 2008''':, "Blacketer" is still the only arbitrator that has not provided identification to the Wikimedia Foundation. Additionally, he is the only arbitrator who does not possess the Check User or oversight capabilities, leading to suspicion. He is completely anonymous, and we know only that he lives in London. Wikipedia Review poster "tarantino" notices these oddities, and starts a thread about Sam_Blacketer highlighting them.[http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=21101]

*'''13 April 2009''': Jonas Rand (banned Wikipedia user Ionas68224) sends an e-mail to sam.blacketer AT googlemail.com, out of curiosity, asking Boothroyd if he had any previous accounts. In the e-mail, Rand also asked Boothroyd why he was so experienced with Wikipedia when he joined, and why he became an arbitrator a year after he joined, additionally raising the question of his e-mail address (which has no trace anywhere on the Web except Wikipedia-affiliated projects).

*'''18 April 2009''': After five days without receiving a response, Rand asks Boothroyd on User_talk:Sam_Blacketer to respond to his last e-mail, telling him "It's time not to be evasive anymore, Sam". Boothroyd responds by e-mail, asking if Jonas Rand promises to keep the answer confidential. When Rand replies, agreeing to do so, Boothroyd lies by saying that he had no previous accounts, concocting an elaborate falsehood of a story about how he came to Wikipedia, not explaining the choice of a Wikipedia-only Gmail address.

*'''21 May 2009''': Wikipedia Review poster "tarantino" announces that he determined the real identity and former usernames of "Sam_Blacketer" after reviewing the case "a few days ago". Though he doesn't immediately reveal that it is Boothroyd behind the account, "tarantino" posts this statement:

<blockquote style="margin-left: 11%; margin-right: 11%">
I revisited this a few days ago, and I've figured out who Sam is. If Jimmy and the voters had known what his older account was, he probably wouldn't be an arb today. You played a great round of Wikipedia this time, Sam.</blockquote>

*'''22 May 2009''': "Sam_Blacketer" provides identification to the Wikimedia Foundation and is placed on the Identification noticeboard, a list of people who are identified to the Foundation (Cary Bass).

*'''23 May 2009''': "Sam Blacketer" resigns from the Wikipedia Arbitration Committee, revealing himself to have formerly edited under the alias Fys. It did not take long for posters on the Wikipedia Review to determine his name, '''David Boothroyd'''. Wikipedia Review members also mention the fact that he actually writes biographies of British politicians for pay, and serves on the Westminster City Council. The hypocrisy in this and the comments that Boothroyd made to the effect that MyWikiBiz was an unethical business was noted on WR.

*'''25 May 2009''': On the Wikipedia Review thread where Sam Blacketer was recently exposed as David Boothroyd, '''tarantino''' is asked how he found the connection between Boothroyd and Sam Blacketer. He responds by keeping the link confidential, but provides [http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg231/sonitnarat/sam.png this graph], which compares the editing times of User:Fys with that of User:Sam_Blacketer. In the graph, considerable similarities between the time slots of editing can be noticed.

*'''26 May 2009''': An article that Cade Metz wrote about the scandal, entitled "Sockpuppeting British politico resigns from Wikisupremecourt", is published in ''The Register'', outlining his resignation from the Arbitration Committee and the story behind the account.

==See also==
*[[Directory:David Boothroyd]]
*[[Sam Blacketer]] 

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[[Category:Wikipedia]]

2009-12-06T22:13:57Z

Jonas Rand: expand

*'''27 March 2004''': David Boothroyd begins editing, as "Dbiv", making his first edit to a Wikipedia talk page for the article on a British general election.
*'''20 January 2005''': After making over 2000 edits, User:Dbiv successfully becomes an administrator as a result of a self-nomination.
*'''15 February 2006''': Dbiv is blocked for a violation of the Three Revert Rule, whereupon he unblocks himself using administrative tools, giving the reason ''"Yes, I know I am not supposed to do this. Justification 1: Block was wrongly applied. Justification 2: I have a major edit which I am not going to lose come what may. WP:IAR applies."''
*'''9 June 2006''': Dbiv enters himself into the arbitration case regarding Irishpunktom. Prior to that, he commenced working on a "Draft RFC [request for comment]" on Irishpunktom, who he had edit-warred with in the past. The focus of the arbitration is an editing dispute that Dbiv and Irishpunktom have regarding the article Peter Tatchell. The arbitration results in the removal of Dbiv's administrative tools; additionally, among the Arbitration Committee's findings is that Dbiv's unblocking of himself was an abuse of administrative tools.
*'''21 August 2006''': Dbiv creates the User:DavidBoothroyd account, stating that it is to be used solely for editing his biography (at the time, he was the subject of a biographical article).
*'''27 August 2006''': Tony Sidaway blocks Dbiv for a week, for knowingly violating the ArbCom restriction by editing the Peter Tatchell article.
*'''31 August 2006''': Boothroyd logs in to the DavidBoothroyd account, using it as a sock puppet account to evade the one-week block and report User:Calton to the "Personal attacks noticeboard". His usage of the account contradicts the statements that he made about the purpose of the account. Boothroyd says about the usage of the account for purposes not previously outlined:

<blockquote style="margin-left: 11%; margin-right: 11%">"I registered this account solely so I would be able to correct material inaccuracies in my own biography. However, I now find myself forced to resort to it to action this change, which I am explicitly allowed to do: I want all talk to go to [[User talk:Dbiv]]. If you need to leave messages about [[User:80.177.212.6]] do so at the user page, not the talk page. This seems perfectly fair to m e. Meanwhile Calton is being disruptive. He is not an admin and has no role in any of this."</blockquote>
*'''7 October 2006''': User:Dbiv is renamed to "Fys" upon his request, citing concerns about the connection to his real-life identity.
*'''4 December 2006''': After Fys re-creates the User:Dbiv account to avoid impersonation, he uses it to create a userpage for User:Dbiv, with the cryptic text "I have laid down this title and do go by another." This gives the appearance of a user who had "retired", and decided to come back under a different account (rather than just being renamed). When an unrelated user later asks him what it was, he reverts the edit with the summary "none of your business".

*'''12 December 2006''': User:Sam_Blacketer is registered. Keeps a very low profile, shows intricate knowledge of MediaWiki, displays experience with Wikipedia. Begins with work on London boroughs; in one day uploads a photo of his cat, creating a userpage displaying the photo. This is an undeclared sockpuppet of Fys, which was created and used actively in conjunction with the Fys account.

*Meanwhile, as "Fys", his Wikipedia activity is characterized by a sizable period of personal attacks, rudeness, and other less-than-friendly behavior. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=St_Catharine%27s_College,_Cambridge&diff=prev&oldid=97631134] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Husnock/Workshop&diff=prev&oldid=97440075] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:George_Galloway&diff=prev&oldid=137683129]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Paul_Staines&diff=next&oldid=108642014]

<add material about his days as "Fys">

*'''3 February 2007''': As activity by the Fys account declines and the Sam_Blacketer account accumulates edits, a user asks who Dbiv's other name is after viewing the User:Dbiv page. Although it was quite obvious that Dbiv was Fys, which is probably what was initially meant by "I have laid down this title and do go by another", no link was made to the Sam_Blacketer account. Within seconds, Fys (as Dbiv) reverts the user with "none of your business". On that day, Fys makes 4 edits and Sam_Blacketer makes two.

*'''28 April 2007''': Boothroyd again successfully passes a request for adminship after a self-nomination, this time as Sam_Blacketer. The self-nomination RFA passes 57-5-3, support-oppose-neutral. At this time, the only personal information revealed about this user is that he is from the United Kingdom.

*'''24 November 2007''': Boothroyd hurls aspersions at [[Directory:Gregory J. Kohs|Gregory Kohs]], the founder of [[Directory:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]]. On a mailing list maintained by the [[Directory:Wikimedia Foundation|Wikimedia Foundation]], Boothroyd [http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2007-November/085890.html sneered], "I hope Greg Kohs is sick as a parrot." When reprimanded for this being a gratuitous comment, Boothroyd only upped the ante from behind his protective cloak of fake identity, saying that both MyWikiBiz's business transactions and content were "[http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2007-November/085892.html not ethical]".

*'''17 December 2007''': Sam_Blacketer is elected as a member of the Wikipedia Arbitration Committee, being the only arbitrator that has not provided identification to the Wikimedia Foundation (Cary Bass). This is only a year after the Sam_Blacketer account was created.

*'''11 November 2008''':, "Blacketer" is still the only arbitrator that has not provided identification to the Wikimedia Foundation. Additionally, he is the only arbitrator who does not possess the Check User or oversight capabilities, leading to suspicion. He is completely anonymous, and we know only that he lives in London. Wikipedia Review poster "tarantino" notices these oddities, and starts a thread about Sam_Blacketer highlighting them.[http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=21101]

*'''13 April 2009''': Jonas Rand (banned Wikipedia user Ionas68224) sends an e-mail to sam.blacketer AT googlemail.com, out of curiosity, asking Boothroyd if he had any previous accounts. In the e-mail, Rand also asked Boothroyd why he was so experienced with Wikipedia when he joined, and why he became an arbitrator a year after he joined, additionally raising the question of his e-mail address (which has no trace anywhere on the Web except Wikipedia-affiliated projects).

*'''18 April 2009''': After five days without receiving a response, Rand asks Boothroyd on User_talk:Sam_Blacketer to respond to his last e-mail, telling him "It's time not to be evasive anymore, Sam". Boothroyd responds by e-mail, asking if Jonas Rand promises to keep the answer confidential. When Rand replies, agreeing to do so, Boothroyd lies by saying that he had no previous accounts, concocting an elaborate falsehood of a story about how he came to Wikipedia, not explaining the choice of a Wikipedia-only Gmail address.

*'''21 May 2009''': Wikipedia Review poster "tarantino" announces that he determined the real identity and former usernames of "Sam_Blacketer" after reviewing the case "a few days ago". Though he doesn't immediately reveal that it is Boothroyd behind the account, "tarantino" posts this statement:

<blockquote style="margin-left: 11%; margin-right: 11%">
I revisited this a few days ago, and I've figured out who Sam is. If Jimmy and the voters had known what his older account was, he probably wouldn't be an arb today. You played a great round of Wikipedia this time, Sam.</blockquote>

*'''22 May 2009''': "Sam_Blacketer" provides identification to the Wikimedia Foundation and is placed on the Identification noticeboard, a list of people who are identified to the Foundation (Cary Bass).

*'''23 May 2009''': "Sam Blacketer" resigns from the Wikipedia Arbitration Committee, revealing himself to have formerly edited under the alias Fys. It did not take long for posters on the Wikipedia Review to determine his name, '''David Boothroyd'''. Wikipedia Review members also mention the fact that he actually writes biographies of British politicians for pay, and serves on the Westminster City Council. The hypocrisy in this and the comments that Boothroyd made to the effect that MyWikiBiz was an unethical business was noted on WR.

<scandal>

User:Jonas Rand/Sam Blacketer Timeline

2009-12-06T08:30:30Z

Jonas Rand:

User:Jonas Rand/Sam Blacketer Timeline

2009-12-06T08:26:04Z

Jonas Rand: create timeline - just starting (historical purposes)

Worst of Wikipedia

2009-12-06T00:35:07Z

Jonas Rand: +Mythopoetic mens movement, exegesis, Anti-racist mathematics

<big>'''The Worst of Wikipedia'''</big>

Since its online debut in January, 2001, [[Wikipedia]], the self-styled "free encyclopedia that anyone can edit" has managed to form quite a collection of incorrect, trivial, unencyclopedic, disgusting and libelous content. Below are a series of links to a small sampling of the worst of Wikipedia's content, past and present, that are howlers, head-scratchers, or stuff that just makes people mad.

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==Wikipedia Main Space==
 
===Geography===
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[[Worst of Wikipedia Name:=*|Worst of Wikipedia Name]]
[[Category:Geography]]
[[Category:*|Category]]
[[Page Of::*|Section]]
[[Page Of::<q>[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}]]</q>]]
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*[[Worst of Wikipedia/History of western Eurasia]]
*[http://web.archive.org/web/20080119182435/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Eastern_Europe Music of Eastern Europe]
*[http://web.archive.org/web/20060923140907/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Michigan Southern Michigan]

 

===Libel===
<ASK Mainlabel="Article" Header="show" Link="all">
[[Worst of Wikipedia Name:=*|Worst of Wikipedia Name]]
[[Category:Libel]]
[[Category:*|Category]]
[[Page Of::*|Section]]
[[Page Of::<q>[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}]]</q>]]
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*[[Worst of Wikipedia/Fuzzy Zoeller]]
*[[Worst of Wikipedia/John Siegenthaler, Sr.]]
*[[Worst of Wikipedia/Taner Akcam]]

 
===Non-Notable===
<ASK Mainlabel="Article" Header="show" Link="all">
[[Worst of Wikipedia Name:=*|Worst of Wikipedia Name]]
[[Category:Non-Notable]]
[[Category:*|Category]]
[[Page Of::*|Section]]
[[Page Of::<q>[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}]]</q>]]
</ASK>
 
*[[Worst of Wikipedia/Mzoli's]]
*[http://web.archive.org/web/20080227011601/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikinfo Wikinfo]
*[[Worst of Wikipedia/Elonka Dunin]]
 

=== Other truly awful ===
 
*[[Worst of Wikipedia/STIR]]

 

== Revolting ==

*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ass_to_mouth Ass to mouth]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_stretcher Ball stretcher]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bondage_hook Bondage hook]
*[http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Breast_implants.JPG Breast implants (image on Commons)]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_modeling_(erotic) Child modeling (erotic)]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coprophilia Coprophilia]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creampie_(sexual_act) Cream pie]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cum_shot Cum_shot]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cunnilingus Cunnilingus]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_Sanchez_(sexual_act) Dirty Sanchez]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donkey_Punch Donkey Punch]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fart_lighting Fart lighting]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fellatio Fellatio]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_knuckle_cake Fisting]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation Female ejaculation]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frenum_piercing Frenum piercing]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_feces Human faeces]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incest_pornography Incest pornography]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labia_piercing Labia piercing]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nipple_clamp Nipple clamp]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_necklace_(sexuality) Pearl necklace]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_cunt_hair Red cunt hair]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rusty_trombone Rusty trombone]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smotherbox Smotherbox]

== Banal and unencyclopedic ==

*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_X_Factor_Contestants List of X Factor Contestants]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomatic_missions_of_Suriname Diplomatic missions of Suriname]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/122nd_meridian_west 122nd meridian west]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teletubbies Teletubbies]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highway_route_numbers_in_Oregon List of highway route numbers in Oregon]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humberstone_Road_railway_station Humberstone Road railway station]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_state_leaders_in_1128 List of state leaders in 1128]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Pleydell-Bouverie,_4th_Earl_of_Radnor Jacob Pleydell-Bouverie, 4th Earl of Radnor]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_Princess_Minky_Momo Magical Princess Minky Momo]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_pong Beer pong (''a former "good article"'')]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/300-page_iPhone_bill 300 page iPhone bill (''a "good article"'')]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Eden_hat Anthony Eden hat (''a "good article"'')]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bus_Uncle The Bus Uncle (''a "featured article"'')]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESRB_re-rating_of_The_Elder_Scrolls_IV:_Oblivion ESRB re-rating of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (''a "featured article"'')]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_40_Alternate_(Keyser%27s_Ridge_%E2%80%93_Cumberland,_Maryland) U.S. Route 40 Alternate (Keyser's Ridge -- Cumberland, Maryland) (''a "featured article"'')] <ref>Important! Not to be confused with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_40_Alternate_(Hagerstown_%E2%80%93_Frederick,_Maryland) U.S. Route 40 Alternate (Hagerstown -- Frederick, Maryland)]</ref>
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_victims_of_fatal_snake_bites_in_the_United_States_by_decade List of victims of fatal snake bites in the United States by decade]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Meerkat_Manor_meerkats List of Meerkat Manor meerkats (''a "featured list"'')]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andorra_at_the_1976_Winter_Olympics Andorra at the 1976 Winter Olympics]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drugs_and_devices_in_the_Year_Zero_alternate_reality_game Drugs and devices in the Year Zero alternate reality game]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Companies_listed_on_the_Toronto_Stock_Exchange_(J) Companies listed on the Toronto Stock Exchange (J)]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utopolis_Kirchberg Utopolis Kirchberg]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guanqiu_Xiu Guanqiu Xiu]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arch_Coal&diff=next&oldid=255480884 Fram makes encyclopedia worse by mindlessly reverting "unwelcome" editor]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbie%27s_careers Did you know Barbie was a midwife?]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loose_wheel_nut_indicator Loose wheel nut indicator]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythopoetic_men's_movement Mythopoetic men's movement]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exegesis Exegesis]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-racist_mathematics Anti-racist mathematics]

== Notes ==
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User talk:MyWikiBiz

2009-11-23T22:02:54Z

Jonas Rand: /* Consumer economy */ I sent you my mailing address

'''Past discussions are archived here''':

*[[User talk:MyWikiBiz/Archive 1|Archive 1]] ''(Oct 2006 - Mar 2007)''
*[[User talk:MyWikiBiz/Archive 2|Archive 2]] ''(Mar 2007 - May 2007)''
*[[User talk:MyWikiBiz/Archive 3|Archive 3]] ''(June 2007 - June 2008)''
*[[User talk:MyWikiBiz/Archive 4|Archive 4]] ''(July 2008 - January 2009)''

== On Interpretation ==

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=De_Interpretatione&diff=264917696&oldid=257325112 Adding chapter 10] to the Wikipedia version.

Currently [http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=%22Aristotle+enumerates+the+affirmations+and+denials%22&meta= Google search] only returns the MWB version. I am not sure what happens here. Normally Google gives precedence to the original version.

[[User:Ockham|Ockham]] 11:17, 18 January 2009 (PST)

:Google is very strange. Just by [http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Aristotle+enumerates+the+%22affirmations+and+denials%22&btnG=Search&meta= rearranging the quotation marks], I can make the MyWikiBiz page disappear. Best to let the Google spiders do their work for at least 14 days before you draw any firm conclusion. (In the meantime, though, we already '''knew''' that MWB is better than Wikipedia in so many ways!) -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 12:15, 18 January 2009 (PST)
:: Yes - the current cached version is Dec 11 so the spiders still have to do their work. Then I will experiment with changing first on the MWB version, then propagate to the WP version, so it is clear what the proper source is. [[User:Ockham|Ockham]] 02:30, 19 January 2009 (PST)

=== Google likes Nicholas of Paris ===

[http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=%22nicholas+of+paris%22&meta= Reaches #2] [[User:Ockham|Ockham]] 04:12, 25 January 2009 (PST)

===But unfairly ignores the addition to Wikipedia 'On Interpretation'===

As reported above, I added [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=De_Interpretatione&diff=264917696&oldid=257325112 some material] to the Wikipedia version of ''On Interpretation'', which before was only in MWB version. At that point, a
[http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=%22Aristotle+enumerates+the+affirmations+and+denials%22&meta= search on a key phrase] only returned the MWB version. But now (as of new cache, 20 Jan) you see it is attributed to Wikipedia, and the MWB version is hidden. That is outrageous. Previous experiments with other sites suggested that Google always respects the provenance of material. Here it is the other way round. Google is a thief!

Next experiment. Perhaps either remove the paragraph from Wikipedia version. Or change the MWB version. Or put in another para into Wikipedia so Google gets the hint? [[User:Ockham|Ockham]] 04:19, 25 January 2009 (PST)

:JA: Google's ranking algorithm, apart from transient recency effects that disappear after a few weeks, is exclusively biased toward graph-theoretic connectivity over any other factor. That is why Google ranks Wikipedia high on any given search cue even when the original articles that snagged those cues have been reduced to stubs or even redirects — so long as all the links from other Wikipedia pages are still there — Google is clueless about the contents of the garbage bin at the other end of the links. Google's algorithm is blind to provenance when it does not issue in connectivity, it is blind to both content quality and logical quality (in the Kantian sense). "There's is no such thing as a negative link" is its sole maxim. [[User:Jon Awbrey|Jon Awbrey]] 05:54, 25 January 2009 (PST)

::I am tickled pink that you guys are curious about this Google phenomenon, as am I. It is rather offensive that the "original source" would be deprecated by Google in favor of the "borrowing site", no matter how much of a gorilla it is in PageRank. But, them's the breaks, I'm afraid. It all comes down to: ''In order to show you the most relevant results''. Google has determined that popularity equals relevance, not originality nor quality. The only real solution to prevent this offense is to copyright your work here (in a Directory network, since the Main Space is governed by GFDL) and see to it that it doesn't find its way to Wikipedia.
::If you don't mind, I'd like to toy around a little with these articles you've mentioned, to pump in a few semantic tags, so that maybe — '''maybe''' — it might out-compete Wikipedia once again. I doubt it, but it would be an achievement worthy of note. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 09:36, 25 January 2009 (PST)
::: Yay that's the spirit. [[User:Ockham|Ockham]] 11:38, 25 January 2009 (PST)

===Bad weather incidents===
This is an [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=active&q=bad+weather+incidents&btnG=Search example] of a Google search for ''bad weather incidents'', where the MyWikiBiz page came up '''# 1 result''' out of 920,000, while Wikipedia's much more detailed page came in only at # 5. Notice the link for MyWikiBiz? Google seems to have selected out the '''Special:URIResolver''' page, which redirects the visitor into the real Category page. URI means 'uniform resource identifier', and that means XML relations and semantic web. So the semantic web characteristics of MyWikiBiz are without question being "boosted" by Google. Good thing the Wikipediots declared that Semantic Mediawiki was "too hard to use" for the average editor. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 13:48, 27 January 2009 (PST)

== Future SEO Battle ==

JA: Storing this here for future reference:

* [http://infolab.stanford.edu/~backrub/google.html Sergey Brin and Lawrence Page : The Anatomy of a Large-Scale Hypertextual Web Search Engine]

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'''2.1.2. Intuitive Justification'''

PageRank can be thought of as a model of user behavior. We assume there is a "random surfer" who is given a web page at random and keeps clicking on links, never hitting "back" but eventually gets bored and starts on another random page. The probability that the random surfer visits a page is its PageRank. And, the d damping factor is the probability at each page the "random surfer" will get bored and request another random page. One important variation is to only add the damping factor d to a single page, or a group of pages. This allows for personalization and can make it nearly impossible to deliberately mislead the system in order to get a higher ranking. We have several other extensions to PageRank, again see [Page 98].

Another intuitive justification is that a page can have a high PageRank if there are many pages that point to it, or if there are some pages that point to it and have a high PageRank. Intuitively, pages that are well cited from many places around the web are worth looking at. Also, pages that have perhaps only one citation from something like the Yahoo! homepage are also generally worth looking at. If a page was not high quality, or was a broken link, it is quite likely that Yahoo's homepage would not link to it. PageRank handles both these cases and everything in between by recursively propagating weights through the link structure of the web.
|}

== Images aren't working?! ==

I am uploading a series of photos as a part of my travelog, but I cannot get them to display in my browser - my readers are also having trouble. The files in question are... 
[[Image:Sahara1.JPG|thumb|right|100px|Sahara image 1]] [[Image:Sahara2.JPG|thumb|right|100px|Sahara image 2]] [[Image:Sahara3.JPG|thumb|right|100px|Sahara image 3]] 

I want to upload three more as well, but not until I find out what the problem with these images is. Could it be because of their very high resolution? I did not reduce their dimensions from the camera's 5.0 MP - if need be, I can do this and try to upload them again. Thanks as always, [[User:AndrewM|AndrewM]] 12:34, 1 February 2009 (PST)

:Actually, it looks like the images are working. They are HUGE, so I am modifying them here to thumbnails. I also replied [http://www.mywikibiz.com/index.php?title=User_talk:AndrewM&diff=78250&oldid=77367 here]. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 14:59, 1 February 2009 (PST)

::I think I'll just delete these images then upload resampled versions once I'm done with classes. I can't say I've ever used a wiki this extensively before, so thanks for bearing with me in this! [[User:AndrewM|AndrewM]] 00:39, 2 February 2009 (PST)

== More experiments ==

New article [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_of_cornwall here] on Andrew of Cornwall which contains less information than the MWB version. [[Andrew of Cornwall]]. Also contains a link to the MWB article (the first such in article space I believe - there are many in talk space, mostly on Jimbo's page). Let's see what Google makes of that. [[User:Ockham|Ockham]] 05:19, 7 February 2009 (PST)
:Should be interesting. It's not the first external link to MWB from Wikipedia article space, though. Such links exist for MyWikiBiz article, Liz Cohen article, and Peirce's Law article. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:LinkSearch&target=*.mywikibiz.com List of all external links] from Wikipedia, currently 47. Twelve months ago, it was about 35. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 06:41, 7 February 2009 (PST)
:: You are right. In any case, let's see. The community here seems to be growing, by the way. [[User:Ockham|Ockham]] 08:49, 7 February 2009 (PST)
:: [update] The Wikipedia version of the article now appears #3 in Google - that was quick. It is the first major appearance of Andrew in a Google search, which ignores the scholarly articles about Andrew in the first 10 hits. But Google sadly ignores the MWB article, even though it is more detailed, and even though Wikipedia links to ''it'', but not the other way round. [[User:Ockham|Ockham]] 08:53, 7 February 2009 (PST)

Sometimes, MyWikiBiz "wins". Here is a search for [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS291US291&q=greater+latitude+colder&btnG=Search greater latitude colder], which puts MWB in 3rd place, higher than the Wikipedia page that it was scraped from, in 6th place. I have no explanation, except that "Latitude" is a semantic attribute [http://www.mywikibiz.com/index.php?title=Special:Attributes&limit=50&offset=50 used 97 times] on MWB. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 13:19, 10 February 2009 (PST)

== Andy of Cornwall again ==

The Google cache for [[Andrew of Cornwall]] was refreshed on 7 Feb and again on 10 Feb. The latter one seems to have done the trick for the [http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=andrew+of+cornwall&meta= unquoted search]. Now ranking fifth on Google, whereas before it was nowhere at all. Very encouraging. Or it might have been when the spiders reached my [http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:2eWHIKXBgzIJ:uk.geocities.com/frege%40btinternet.com/+logic+museum&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=uk website] which also has a link. [[User:Ockham|Ockham]] 02:21, 21 February 2009 (PST)

== Haven't disappeared yet? ==
It still lists him in Google. And strangely, the outbound link was gone as well.
[[User:Angdl|Angdl]] 18:05, 8 March 2009 (PDT)

== An update of that "disapear from google's searches" thing? ==
[[User:Angdl|Angdl]] 07:15, 17 March 2009 (PDT)
:Sorry, but I think we have done everything we can to help minimize this "problem". I have even contacted Google to ask them to stop listing the page. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 18:54, 17 March 2009 (PDT)

== I think I see what the problem is ==
You see, his name is no longer listed on Google but the 3f9r6y-4c page is still listed with a mark "redirected from (name)". So, could you delete the redirect instead? So that the "redirected from" name would not appear? I'm sorry for all the trouble. It was my fault why I didn't ask his permission first. [[User:Angdl|Angdl]] 23:08, 20 March 2009 (PDT)

== Demo page ==

Hi there is a link on [[Help:Demonstration]] to my user page which should point to the [[List_of_medieval_philosophers]] instead (I moved that page some time ago). I would have changed the link but don't have permission. [[User:Ockham|Ockham]] 07:23, 29 March 2009 (PDT)

PS you may be interested in [http://community.livejournal.com/medievalstudies/295368.html this]. [[User:Ockham|Ockham]] 08:09, 29 March 2009 (PDT)

== Don't forget ... ==

.. when you're deleting articles, to delete the edit summary that gets autofilled, else you keep a copy of the vandalism about. See [http://www.mywikibiz.com/Special:Log/delete here] - [[User:Alison|'''Alison''']] [[User talk:Alison|❤]] 22:32, 10 April 2009 (PDT)

== Adsense ==

Oh.. I think I understand. Hopefully I can keep Adsense on those pages, maybe... or maybe not... oh well. : / .. : } ... would any of those be appropriate for directory space? Thanks.

: I think I get it. I definitely get that we _DO NOT_ want warring in the main namespace, or really anywhere for that matter. Some other wikis are not healthy cultures, and should not be replicated.

: Thanks.

::I'm okay with you keeping your existing ads where they are, in Main space. I simply ask that you not keep adding Main space pages, if seeding them with AdSense is your goal. Instead, come up with some quasi-brand that becomes your Directory space umbrella, where you can put AdSense ads as much as you want (within Google's terms of service). -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 00:01, 19 April 2009 (PDT)

== reply ==

No, nothing that fancy or purposeful, unfortunately. I hope you won't delete it...

Thanks.

== Importing and moving ==

Is there a chance I could be flagged for import and move wiki abilities? It would save me some time.

I only plan to use move function to move pages to within my directory spaces.

Thanks.

:Sorry, I'd rather not. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 20:28, 17 May 2009 (PDT)

== NPRT: Help! ==

Hello. I am trying to put a page up about or paranormal team but i dunno how to and i think its been deleted!?!... HELP ME PLEASE... -- [[User:NPRT1|NPRT1]] 05:19, 29 May 2009 (PDT)

:Sorry, it had looked like you wanted the page deleted. I see that you are now (correctly) working on a similar page in the Directory space, where legal entities are supposed to reside here. Good luck with your editing here! -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 06:53, 29 May 2009 (PDT)

== Your candidacy to the BoT ==

With Promethean's dirty maneuver to remove your candidacy, you won my vote. Who knows, perhaps you can change something from inside out, but even if you have the chance, it will be a hard task. Good luck anyway! [[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]] 14:12, 9 July 2009 (PDT)

:You're right about the probable inability to change things even from the inside, even if I were to gain a seat on the Board; but, boy, let me tell you what fun it would be to swagger into that first Board meeting, and in a loud, booming voice, say: "Get your house in order, boys and girls, there's a new sheriff in town!" LOL. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 18:32, 9 July 2009 (PDT)

== wiki review :-( ==

Hey greg - just browsing around the review, and noticed your new sig (possibly it's old - but I'm slow ;-) - anywhoo... hopefully it won't be the last time you're involved over there - bizarre as it seems, what WR in my opinion does well is actually 'community' - as in having a bunch of people contributing thoughts and ideas in a way such as the whole becomes greater than the sum of its parts. The gags are regularly pretty good too :-)

I remain interested in Akahele, and how it goes - I probably should have mentioned this to you earlier, but I spoke about 'akahele' very very briefly at a wiki wednesday here in sydney (not a wikipedia event - more corporate - free pizza and beer, mind!) - if you are considering a message board experiment over there - let me know.....

hope you're good regardless, if I could have been bothered we'd have spoken about this election thing - which might actually have made it online - you never know! cheers, [[User:Privatemusings|Privatemusings]] 03:33, 11 August 2009 (PDT)

:Hi, PM! Thanks for stopping by. Yes, I've decided to leave (or at least take a '''long''' extended break from) Wikipedia Review. Honestly, I grew tired of the quality of critique there, and I think it traces back to the hands-off ownership by a fictional character we're not allowed to know or to speak of. I'm too old to be working on good content that two people I don't know could just take and walk away with at any time. Please do keep reading ''[http://www.Akahele.org Akahele]'', and join the discussion via Comments, of course! -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 03:53, 11 August 2009 (PDT)

I also saw your new sig, and I'm sorry to see that you're not posting anymore. But, could you explain further, regarding the issue with Selina, or are you reluctant to do so? [[User:Jonas Rand|Jonas Rand]] 23:21, 11 August 2009 (PDT)

:My issue is not so much "with Selina". My issue is the cumulative impact of a message forum that has been slipping ever downhill in terms of quality, informed criticism of Wikipedia. The straw that broke the camel's back is that the site's owner is, as far as we are all concerned, a '''fictitious''' character. And if you question her identity (even in jest), the threat comes back that not only might such questions be censored, moved, or deleted, but ''the whole damn site'' might very well be shut down in a dramatic puff of indignant smoke. I thought the needless drama was reserved for Wikipedia, not Wikipedia Review. When you couple all of this with the fact that "Selina" (or whomever operates that character identity) altered posts of mine in order to irritate me (one of the top contributors to "her" site), and then compounded that affront by surveying my ''private'' messages issued to others in the community, there is really no reason why a self-respecting adult (or child) should willingly want to participate in such a forum. I have ''[http://www.Akahele.org Akahele.org]'', and while it is not a forum, I think the aspects of "guest article" and "comments" are good enough, for the trade-off that higher-quality, more informed, and ''attributed'' content will grace its pages. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 05:46, 12 August 2009 (PDT)
::I agree in regards to WR going downhill. Ever since late 2007, something about Wikipedia Review seems much different, with lots of pro-Wikipedia types coming in and the amount of serious, intelligent criticism decreased. And I am not sure of the current and past states of the ownership of WR. But I do know that while some of the critics are still posting, they are outnumbered by the pro-Wikipedia posters, or Wikipedia-tolerant posters, who are not interested in analysis. Yes, there were some problems in the pre-2008 Wikipedia Review, but not on nearly as large a scale as now. And I don't know why Selina would do that, regarding the PMs. Definitely something is wrong when the owner deliberately tries to bait one of the top posters and then looks at his private messages.

::As far as WR's ownership goes, I have made a post [http://forum.encyc.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=173 here] in regards to that, and I asked some questions there. My e-mail is happydelsim (at) aol.com, if you want to contact me. [[User:Jonas Rand|Jonas Rand]] 20:23, 12 August 2009 (PDT)

:::For over twenty years, I've been working on the problem of mass organization in the presence of known problems with such, the biggest problem being noise. On a small scale, we know very well how to operate as what I call a Free Association, which is non-coercive, open, tolerant ... but also able to make decisions, if there are skilled participants or facilitators present, without taking forever. What I stumbled across is a technique for scaling this. The basic mechanism for this was proposed on Wikipedia about two years ago and promptly, without understanding (or any danger) rejected, and the attempt was made to delete and salt it, which was pretty outrageous; in spite of massive !votes to delete, older and more experienced editors prevailed, and WP:PRX still exists. The mechanism doesn't explain how it would work; the term "proxy" is a bit misleading, but the European term for the same function, "advisor" only conveys half the meaning. In any case, I could write megabytes on this, and have, but I won't sink your Talk page with it. FA/DP technology ("Free Association with Delegable Proxy"), in theory, can function in very difficult environments, it is truly subversive, as long as an active interest group appears, but it is non-destructively subversive, it simply fails if an attempt is made to abuse it. Long story, as I imagine you can guess. It is possible to reform Wikipedia, and fairly quickly, and with no central structures that would simply replace one set of abusers with another.

:::Wikipedia Review has become a general noticeboard for Wikipedia, which is a positive function. It's essential that this kind of function exist; however, there are no effective noise-filtering mechanisms for WR, and probably such cannot be built there. But they could be built elsewhere. The problems of efficiency and noise were mostly neglected when the wiki model evolved; the only attempt to deal with noise has been through banning, which doesn't resolve disputes. There is a much better way, addressing the noise problem which is the real issue, often. To mention my own travails, the majority should not have to bear with massive debate over issues that it cares not about, such as cold fusion, and that it knows nothing about except for rumor and mass media images. ArbComm is running as if the way to try a case is to open the court and allow anyone to speak. That works when the scale is very small. Rapidly, the scale at Wikipedia became too large, but editors, having experience with how well it can work on a small scale, were attached to the open wiki model. The open wiki model is excellent, but only under certain conditions, and a better understanding of what is organizationally possible would allow keeping the baby while discarding the bathwater. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] 06:56, 19 September 2009 (PDT)

::::I love the proxy delegate idea. That would have made for even more political intrigue, until, eventually, one person would "win" Wikipedia, which is a game, as we all know. Too bad the proposal wasn't presented in a more simplified way. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 19:52, 19 September 2009 (PDT)
:::::It would not have made any difference, in fact. Hidden secret: the proposal is unstoppable, if people want to do it. If proxy assignments represent real off-wiki connections, deleting and salting the proxy assignment files has no real effect, it merely makes what was visible invisible, and if those involved want to keep it visible, they simply create the structures off-wiki. Yes, it makes for more "intrigue," but at the same time makes it possible to actually negotiate. It's well known that it is impossible to negotiate with mobs. Think Tiananmen Square. The Chinese government tried to negotiate with the students, and gave up when they realized that the sober leaders had no power, nor did anyone, really. Tragic. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] 12:42, 20 September 2009 (PDT)

== Just To Say Hello ==

Hi MyWikiBiz! I'm just here to say hello & that I'm happy to be here. [[User:Peter Z.|Peter Z.]] 20:36, 21 September 2009 (PDT)

:Equally happy to have you here! -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 08:25, 22 September 2009 (PDT)

== Sorry To See You Being Blocked (Again) From Wikipedia ==

Wikipedia as an encyclopedia? I don't think so! It’s probably past the point where any reform can help it. Here in Australian Universities, Colleges and other tertiary education facilities are banning the use of Wikipedia. In my short time there at Wiki, I've seen other editors do far worse things and get away with it. Sometimes I think the place is run by '''17 year old nerds''' going on their big teenage ego trips, with no qualification and with no '''life experience''' ''(or they just act in that manner)''.

Did you say something really naughty at Wikivoices? Wikibiz is a far cooler place! See Ya! [[User:Peter Z.|Peter Z.]] 01:56, 28 September 2009 (PDT)

:You've got it about right. My block this time came as a result of calling to task the ethics of a struggling college biology student who has refused to release a recorded audio interview that 10 people took two hours of their time to produce, under the impression that the audio would be promptly published. Apparently, it is a blockable offense on Wikipedia to call for greater accountability among the youngsters who rule the roost. Meanwhile, Wikipedia won't get any more articles like [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alec_Head this], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_sharing this], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propositional_function this] from me while I'm blocked, will they? Their loss, not mine. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 06:10, 28 September 2009 (PDT)

:::Agreed, & they are great articles, as you say 'Their loss'.[[User:Peter Z.|Peter Z.]] 04:18, 30 September 2009 (PDT)

== Wiki Editors Publishing Wiki Articles (In a Book) ==

G-Day MyWikiBiz! Do you know anything about Wiki Editors publishing Wiki articles (in a book) and making money from it. I brought this book of the Internet called History of Dalmatia [http://www.amazon.com/History-Dalmatia-Dalmatia-Dalmatian-principalities/dp/6130027028]. It turned out to be 95% Wiki (maps & all). I though that Wiki was a '''non-profit''' organization. Without my knowledge I was surprised to see myself listed as a source author (& they got my statement wrong). [[User:Peter Z.|Peter Z.]] 22:51, 11 October 2009 (PDT)

:My understanding of the the various free licenses (GFDL and CC) that Wikipedia has foisted on the world, is that anyone is free to re-use the content either in non-commercial or in commercial settings, so long as they properly attribute the content to its source/authors, and they in turn re-release the content under the same license. This is one of the most interesting aspects of free licenses, and a reason to very carefully consider whether you want to put too much sweat and labor into content that is so released. Judging from this particular book's publisher (@lphascript publishing), I'll venture a guess that the total value of the profits going to the pocket of John McBrewster (et al) is less than the cost of dinner for four at Macaroni Grill. I have yet to see someone get rich off of re-purposing free content, other than Jimmy Wales, Sue Gardner, Mike Godwin, and the rest of the Wikimedia Foundation team. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 08:11, 12 October 2009 (PDT)

:I also find it extremely entertaining, as I go to write a review of the book on Amazon.com, that after writing my blurb, Amazon suggests the following handy "tags" to annotate my thoughts:
::'''Tag Suggestions''' (click to add): ''rip-off, croatia, wikipedia, lies, sham, deceptive, ripoff, john mcbrewster''
:That ought to keep the cash register ringing! -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 08:14, 12 October 2009 (PDT)

'''Update:'''
* Croatian Wine-by Frederic P. Miller (Editor), Agnes F. Vandome (Editor), John McBrewster (Editor) [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/613005288X/ref=pe_5050_13452960_snp_dp]
* Ustase-by Frederic P. Miller (Editor), Agnes F. Vandome (Editor), John McBrewster (Editor) [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/6130088035/ref=pe_5050_13461450_snp_dp]
Hi MyWikiBiz, good to see you back. I'm getting more those (the above) nearly every day. Ps check out my music [http://www.amrap.org/fmn.php?pageid=4&nodeid=458&a=1&p=1&c=intrinsic] Cheers [[User:Peter Z.|Peter Z.]] 01:07, 8 November 2009 (PST)

== Interview request ==

Mr. Koh<s>l</s>s,

I have been writing a series of articles on Wikipedia and business, including one on [http://business-writing.suite101.com/article.cfm/wikipedian_editor_for_hire Editing Wikipedia for Hire] which was based on existing Wikipedia policies. I would very much like to interview you about paid editing there and how this project differs from Wikipedia.--[[User:TPWard|TPWard]] 14:31, 7 November 2009 (PST)

:I would be happy to oblige. I've responded to you by e-mail with suitable times to conduct the interview. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 15:20, 7 November 2009 (PST)

== RE: Is that allowed? ==

Thanks for the welcome. I just didn't want to waste your time. [http://www.mywikibiz.com/index.php?title=User:MyWikiBiz&diff=97618&oldid=87009 I fixed a problem on your user page], since it doesn't display properly in IE7. I hope that you don't mind. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 10:17, 11 November 2009 (PST)

:I appreciate the token of assistance. Very kind of you. -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 06:39, 12 November 2009 (PST)
::You're welcome. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 09:56, 12 November 2009 (PST)

== zomg? ==

http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Special:ContributionHistory?offset=1257978833#269242 [[User:Wikademia|Wikademia]]

:Yikes! There must be [http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Special:ContributionHistory?offset=1257978833#269238 something] in the [http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Special:ContributionHistory?offset=1258035781#269225 air] over there! -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 06:45, 12 November 2009 (PST)

== [[Consumer economy]] ==

Hello, I've given 5 sentences backed up by 3 sources, but I'm not sure if this meets the condition as far as well-constructed sentences go. It still looks like it needs improvement. Does this meet the requirements? [[User:Jonas Rand|Jonas Rand]] 13:43, 23 November 2009 (PST)

:It's a bit rough around the edges, but I'm a man of my word, and this is just the sort of effort that I've solicited. How will I issue the $15 payment to you? -- [[User:MyWikiBiz|MyWikiBiz]] 13:50, 23 November 2009 (PST)
::I sent you my address by e-mail, at the Gmail account specified in your directory page. [[User:Jonas Rand|Jonas Rand]] 14:02, 23 November 2009 (PST)