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<pre> --- Log opened Fri Aug 03 00:29:10 2012 00:29 -!- xerofox [~xerofox@198.144.190.20] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:29 -!- Irssi: #wikipedia-en: Total of 165 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 164 normal] 00:29 -!- Irssi: Join to #wikipedia-en was synced in 1 secs 00:29 -!- Pine [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Pine] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 00:31 < LtNOWIS> I'm glad we have a timeline of national flags, but some sort of wizard or table where you put in a year and it spits out all the ones that shouldn't be contemporary might be better 00:31 -!- petan [~pidgeon@wikimedia/Petrb] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:32 < LtNOWIS> I had no idea all these Caribbean countries changed their flags in the past 10 years 00:34 < LtNOWIS> And Lithuania, geeze 00:37 -!- Bruvtakesover [~kiewii@wikipedia/bruvtakesover] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:38 < LtNOWIS> any Template:Country data experts here? 00:38 < LtNOWIS> ah wait never mind 00:39 < LtNOWIS> actually yeah, I think Ethiopia's is messed up 00:40 -!- p858snake|l [~p858snake@unaffiliated/p858snake] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:50 < LtNOWIS> alright I'm too tired for this. 00:50 -!- LtNOWIS is now known as LtNOWIS|sleep 00:54 -!- quanticle is now known as quanticle|away 01:09 -!- Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte 01:10 -!- tkazec [~msk@173.247.10.144] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 01:15 -!- Keegan [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Keegan] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:16 -!- p858snake|l [~p858snake@unaffiliated/p858snake] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:17 -!- delirious [~jessica@S0106586d8f57219e.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:18 -!- RJD [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Rjd0060] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:18 -!- RJD [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Rjd0060] has quit [Client Quit] 01:19 -!- RJD [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Rjd0060] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:29 -!- fuleo-work [~fuleo@165.21.240.246] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:43 -!- Jeske_Merensky [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/jeske-couriano/x-0000001] has quit [Quit: Eek! Yoshi! *flees*] 01:47 -!- Maccer [~Maccer@199.168.138.175] has quit [Excess Flood] 01:48 -!- p858snake|l [~p858snake@unaffiliated/p858snake] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:56 -!- Tanvir [~tanvir@wikimedia/wikitanvir] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:01 -!- Seahorse [~Seahorse@wikipedia/Seahorseruler] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 02:03 -!- MJ94 [~MJ94@wikimedia/mj94] has quit [Quit: Textual v2.1 (ZTN Fork v2.0.1) http://www.ztecnet.net/textual] 02:09 -!- Tanvir [~tanvir@wikimedia/wikitanvir] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:10 -!- Maccer [~Maccer@199.168.138.175] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:10 -!- Sp33dyphil [cb2d98fb@wikipedia/Sp33dyphil] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:10 < Sp33dyphil> I got a question 02:14 < Sp33dyphil> nvm 02:14 -!- camerin [hoax@newelite.bshellz.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:15 -!- camerin [hoax@newelite.bshellz.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:21 -!- RJD [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Rjd0060] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 02:22 -!- camerin [hoax@newelite.bshellz.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:23 -!- camerin [hoax@newelite.bshellz.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:27 -!- foks [~sup@wikipedia/fox] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:33 -!- juliancolton [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Juliancolton] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:34 -!- juliancolton [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Juliancolton] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:37 -!- lubmil [~lubmil@89-67-33-69.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:40 -!- lukas23 [~Lukas23@wikipedia/Lukas23] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:41 < ToAruShiroiNeko> Sp33dyphil I got an answer 02:41 < ToAruShiroiNeko> nvm 02:42 < ToAruShiroiNeko> :P 02:42 < Sp33dyphil> :P 02:42 < Sp33dyphil> Good to see you too. 02:42 < ToAruShiroiNeko> yay 02:44 < Sp33dyphil> ToAruShiroiNeko: fwiw, i'm racing against time to see [[Galaxy S3]] though to FA before 12 September 02:49 < foks> Why then? 02:50 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has joined 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Pharos [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Pharos] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:33 -!- ExtinguishedFire [~chatzilla@i161223.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [SeaMonkey 2.10.1/20120615050225]] 04:37 -!- Fae [~Fae@wikipedia/Fae] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:41 -!- mh0 is now known as zneiram 04:41 -!- wctaiwan [01a26464@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:41 -!- zneiram is now known as mh0 04:41 -!- Kingpin13 [~Kingpin13@Wikipedia/Kingpin13] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:44 -!- mh0 is now known as luaR 04:44 -!- closedmouth [mouthy@wikipedia/closedmouth] has quit [Quit: Don't be fatuous, Jeffrey.] 04:44 -!- luaR is now known as mh0 04:48 * ToAruShiroiNeko plays with you 04:49 < wctaiwan> I like how this software gives the transfer rate as as 1.24e+03 KB/s. 04:49 < wctaiwan> it's so wonderfully pointless. 04:51 -!- Internet13 [~Internet1@cpc26-croy20-2-0-cust25.19-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:52 -!- PeterSymonds_ [~Peter@wikimedia/PeterSymonds] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:52 -!- Internet13 [~Internet1@cpc26-croy20-2-0-cust25.19-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:53 < wctaiwan> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/08/microsoft-metro-out-windows-8-style-ui-in-amid-rumors-of-a-trademark-dispute/ wait what? 04:54 -!- PeterSymonds [~Peter@wikimedia/PeterSymonds] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:55 -!- yang2 is now known as yang 04:55 -!- yang [yang@jazz.linuxshell.org] has quit [Changing host] 04:55 -!- yang [yang@freenode/sponsor/cacert.assurer.yang] has joined #wikipedia-en 04:59 -!- BarkingFish [~BarkingFi@openglobe/BarkingFish] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:01 -!- Callanecc|away [kvirc@wikipedia/Callanecc] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:03 -!- Callanecc|away is now known as Callanecc 05:05 -!- Callanecc [kvirc@wikipedia/Callanecc] has left #wikipedia-en ["Once you know what it is you want to be true, instinct is a very useful device for enabling you to know that it is"] 05:12 -!- LL2|Android [~LL2@wikipedia/LikeLakers2] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:13 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:13 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has quit [Client Quit] 05:15 -!- Emw [~emw@wikipedia/Emw] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:16 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:20 -!- Jayflux [~jay_knows@cpc1-dudl6-0-0-cust1981.wolv.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:24 -!- ragesoss [~ragesoss@wikimedia/ragesoss] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:25 -!- mode/#wikipedia-en [+o petan] by ChanServ 05:25 -!- mode/#wikipedia-en [-r] by petan 05:25 -!- mode/#wikipedia-en [-o petan] by petan 05:26 -!- qqqqqqqq [4eb7c786@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.183.199.134] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:26 -!- Steven_Zhang [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi] 05:26 -!- BarkingFish [~BarkingFi@openglobe/BarkingFish] has quit [Quit: I used to be a werewolf, but I'm alright nooooOOOOOOOOWWWWWW! :)] 05:27 < qqqqqqqq> hi 05:28 < petan> hello 05:28 -!- gry [gryllida@freenode/staff/gry] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:29 -!- qqqqqqqq [4eb7c786@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.183.199.134] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:29 -!- LikeLakers2 [~LikeLaker@173.171.64.254] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:29 -!- LikeLakers2 [~LikeLaker@173.171.64.254] has quit [Changing host] 05:29 -!- LikeLakers2 [~LikeLaker@wikipedia/LikeLakers2] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:30 < LikeLakers2> apparently I cant connect via xchat to freenode 05:30 < LikeLakers2> even with "Accept invalid SSL certificate" on, I still get * Connection failed. Error: certificate not trusted.? (27) 05:31 < petan> LikeLakers2 try #freenode 05:31 * LikeLakers2 wonders why it can't just ask if I still want to allow it 05:31 < LikeLakers2> ok 05:31 < gry> #xchat could be worth a try 05:31 < petan> or that 05:31 < LikeLakers2> well, I dont think XChat is really much to blame 05:31 < wctaiwan> LikeLakers2: I've never got an invalid SSL certificate with freenode 05:31 < gry> not like #freenode is a channel full of xchat users, more of people who would just do a web search :-) 05:31 < wctaiwan> are you sure you didn't type an incorrect server? 05:31 < gry> (it could also work, but not as reliable) 05:32 < LikeLakers2> I'm sure 05:32 < wctaiwan> Time to try installing Mountain Lion... again 05:32 * wctaiwan waves his install disc threateningly 05:32 < LikeLakers2> I've only editted the port for the server 05:32 < gry> which is 6697 05:32 < gry> for ssl 05:32 < LikeLakers2> yes I know 05:33 < gry> then it would just work, or the client is classified as Annoying 05:33 < LikeLakers2> also, when connecting to ASoTnet, which is a server my friend runs 05:33 < gry> which quassel isn't 05:33 < LikeLakers2> * * Verify E: unable to verify the first certificate.? (21) -- Ignored 05:33 < gry> but again, thats exactly why #xchat exists 05:34 < LikeLakers2> yeah, I have AndroIRC set to SSL on freenode too 05:34 < LikeLakers2> have to allow the cert, but it still gives me an option to bypass the fact that the cert is invalid 05:35 < wctaiwan> gah. Startup key combinations almost never work. 05:35 * wctaiwan sighs, changes startup volume 05:37 < LikeLakers2> lawl 05:37 < LikeLakers2> I just enabled smaller text for the channel switcher 05:37 < LikeLakers2> says I need a restart for changes to take effect 05:37 < LikeLakers2> but apparently it becomes smaller whenever an event happens 05:39 -!- Fae [~Fae@wikipedia/Fae] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:39 < wctaiwan> okay now it's taking awfully long to boot 05:39 < wctaiwan> does that mean it's working? 05:40 * wctaiwan stares hopefully 05:40 < mareklug> first boot took v. long and there was a beachball 05:40 < wctaiwan> not first boot. Trying to boot from the install disc 05:41 < wctaiwan> now I'm getting the apple + spinner screen. Who knows what awaits at the end... 05:41 < wctaiwan> maybe there is no light at the end of the tunnel. Maybe it's just New Jersey. 05:41 -!- Rjd0060 [~Ryan@wikimedia/Rjd0060] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:41 < wctaiwan> - Jon Stewart 05:42 -!- Monchoman45 [~monchoman@wikia/Monchoman45] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:42 < wctaiwan> the screen just turned white 05:42 * wctaiwan is excited!!11!11 05:42 -!- mindspillage [~kat@wikimedia/KatWalsh/x-0001] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:43 < wctaiwan> okay, it booted into the installer. Hopefully it actually works this time... 05:43 < wctaiwan> You all love my play-by-play of the installation process, right? right? >.> 05:43 < mareklug> it will probably take upwards of an hour to install, as it took over 38 minutes to do so from hard disk 05:43 -!- lukas23 [~Lukas23@dslb-094-217-018-175.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:43 -!- lukas23 [~Lukas23@dslb-094-217-018-175.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Changing host] 05:43 -!- lukas23 [~Lukas23@wikipedia/Lukas23] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:44 < wctaiwan> yeah, for some reason Snow Leopard installed far more quickly... 05:44 < wctaiwan> actually it's possible that it has copied all of the DVD to the hard drive by this point, judging from how long it took to get to this point... 05:45 -!- Fae [~Fae@host-92-20-62-41.as13285.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:45 -!- Fae [~Fae@host-92-20-62-41.as13285.net] has quit [Changing host] 05:45 -!- Fae [~Fae@wikipedia/Fae] has joined #wikipedia-en 05:46 < wctaiwan> booyeah. Further along the install process than I ever got yesterday. 05:50 -!- LL2|Android [~LL2@wikipedia/LikeLakers2] has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 05:58 < wctaiwan> hm. My laptop charges remarkably quickly. 05:58 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Pharos] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:11 -!- Callanecc [kvirc@wikipedia/Callanecc] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:12 -!- Qcoder02 [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/qcoder02] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:12 -!- TheCavalry [~Chase@wikipedia/Chase-me-ladies-Im-the-Cavalry] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:15 < wctaiwan> 39 minutes, mareklug, from start to finish. 06:15 < wctaiwan> so the DVD doesn't make much of a difference... 06:17 -!- Soapy [Soap@wikipedia/soap] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:18 -!- LtNOWIS|sleep is now known as LtNOWIS 06:19 -!- PeterSymonds_ [~Peter@wikimedia/PeterSymonds] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:19 -!- KimiSleep [~Kimihaha@bzq-84-110-5-211.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:19 -!- KimiSleep [~Kimihaha@bzq-84-110-5-211.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:19 -!- KimiSleep [~Kimihaha@bzq-84-110-5-211.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:19 < KimiSleep> Hullo 06:21 -!- TeeTylerToe [~terrafirm@pool-173-66-178-25.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:22 < mareklug> wctaiwan: not bad then 06:28 -!- Ironholds [~f@wikipedia/Ironholds] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:29 < wctaiwan> Ironholds! just the man I was looking for. 06:29 < wctaiwan> indeed 06:29 < Ironholds> wctaiwan! Wassup? 06:30 < wctaiwan> I'll PM you 06:32 -!- Luvbutrfly [~Luvbutrfl@pool-74-96-254-97.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:33 -!- Luvbutrfly [~Luvbutrfl@pool-74-96-254-97.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has left #wikipedia-en [] 06:36 < KimiSleep> Ironholds 06:36 < KimiSleep> can you do me a favor? 06:36 < Ironholds> depends, what is it? 06:36 < KimiSleep> check if I'm online on facebook 06:36 -!- tonynoname [~tonynonam@pool-108-44-5-222.albyny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: tonynoname] 06:37 < Ironholds> sure! 06:37 * Ironholds goes to load up t'book 06:37 < Ironholds> nope 06:37 < KimiSleep> Good 06:37 < Ironholds> sez you can be accessed via the mobile app 06:38 < KimiSleep> That I'm connected via mobile? 06:38 < Ironholds> just that you have the mobile app 06:39 < KimiSleep> Oh. 06:39 < KimiSleep> Good 06:39 < KimiSleep> Can you check again in approx. 2 minutes? 06:39 < Ironholds> sure 06:40 < LtNOWIS> So do we use the taliban flag in sports tournaments articles, etc. from 1997 to 2001? 06:41 < KimiSleep> right about now would do 06:41 < LtNOWIS> (the answer is apparently no) 06:42 < LtNOWIS> I guess they weren't at the 2000 or '98 Olympics 06:43 < Soapy> did the athletes all have 12-inch-long beards ? 06:43 < Soapy> as that supposedly was required for all adult males 06:44 < Soapy> and for some sports would look pretty silly 06:44 -!- YE [~chatzilla@gree-occam-dsl-74-214-234-6.dynamic.etv.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:44 < LtNOWIS> It's the 33rd Chess Olympiad 06:45 < LtNOWIS> They weren't in any Olympics during the Taliban period. 06:45 -!- foks [~sup@host-89-242-73-56.as13285.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:45 -!- foks [~sup@host-89-242-73-56.as13285.net] has quit [Changing host] 06:45 -!- foks [~sup@wikipedia/fox] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:45 -!- p858snake|l [~p858snake@unaffiliated/p858snake] has quit [Quit: User has quit this network.] 06:45 < wctaiwan> o/ foks. 06:46 < foks> hi! 06:46 < Soapy> ok 06:47 < Soapy> maybe they were afraid they might be contaminated by all those filthy infidels 06:47 < LtNOWIS> And didn't enter the '98 world cup, understandibly 06:47 < LtNOWIS> considering the Taliban wasn't even really fully in control when the quals started 06:48 < Dcoetzee> Even the Taliban holding the Olympics probably wouldn't be uncomfortable as Nazi Germany hosting the Olympics was :-P 06:48 < Soapy> 1936 munich olumpis 06:48 < Soapy> no 06:49 < Soapy> where was it" 06:49 < Soapy> Berlin? 06:49 < mareklug> berlin 06:49 < mareklug> 1972 munich 06:49 < Dcoetzee> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936_Summer_Olympics 06:49 < Soapy> looks like they had both winter and summer Olympics events in Germany in 1936 06:49 -!- Callanecc [kvirc@wikipedia/Callanecc] has left #wikipedia-en ["Once you know what it is you want to be true, instinct is a very useful device for enabling you to know that it is"] 06:50 < Soapy> Hitler saw the Games as an opportunity to promote his government and ideals of racial supremacy, and did not want Jews or Blacks to be allowed to participate in the Games. However, when threatened with a boycott of the Games by other nations, he relented and allowed Blacks and Jews 06:50 < Soapy> to participate, and added one token participant to the German team--a German woman, Helene Mayer, who had a Jewish father. At the same time, the party removed signs stating "Jews not wanted" and similar slogans from the city's main tourist attractions. 06:50 < Soapy> even hitler's hatred was not more powerful than his desire for money 06:50 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:51 < Soapy> The next scheduled games in 1940 were awarded to Tokyo even though Japan was becoming an aggressive militaristic, nationalist state. Ironically in 1938 the Japanese rejected hosting the games because they saw the Olympics and its pacifist values as 'an effete form of European culture'. 06:52 < Soapy> So much irony in that 06:52 < mareklug> Hitler was also personally loyal. there is a recent news story about how he protected his former WWI commander who was Jewish 06:52 < Soapy> was that commander a Nazi? 06:52 < Soapy> because I mean I know there were some Jewish Nazis, though ovbiously not many 06:52 < mareklug> did not read. he was probably an old man by that time 06:53 < Soapy> ok 06:53 < LtNOWIS> There were no Nazis in WWI 06:53 < Soapy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Moritz_Hess 06:53 < Soapy> well he died in 1983 06:53 < mareklug> well, some could have become nazi later 06:53 < Soapy> so must have been alive and well during WW2 06:53 -!- Forgiveme [5e0796ba@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.7.150.186] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:53 < Forgiveme> Sorry 06:54 -!- Anurag2k12 [~Anurag2k1@64.229.153.211] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:54 < Ironholds> Forgiveme: no idea who you are, dear. 06:55 < Soapy> he was surely not a Nazi 06:55 < Soapy> it seems Hitler ultimately betrayed even him 06:56 < Dcoetzee> "The sportive, knightly battle awakens the best human characteristics. It doesn't separate, but unites the combatants in understanding and respect. It also helps to connect the countries in the spirit of peace. That's why the Olympic Flame should never die." - Adolf Hitler 06:56 < LtNOWIS> This is what happens when you google image search "33rd Chess Olympiad afghanistan:" http://i.ytimg.com/vi/RuWamYGsh9c/0.jpg 06:57 < Soapy> good match 06:57 < Forgiveme> I am so sorry 06:57 -!- mode/#wikipedia-en [+o foks] by ChanServ 06:57 < Forgiveme> I have made a mistake 06:57 -!- mode/#wikipedia-en [+q *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.7.150.186] by foks 06:57 -!- mode/#wikipedia-en [-o foks] by foks 06:57 < Soapy> '33rd' seems to be the only term that matches 06:57 < KimiSleep> Ironholds - did you check? 06:58 -!- Avruch [~Me@p3ahost177.fahc.org] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:58 -!- Avruch [~Me@p3ahost177.fahc.org] has quit [Changing host] 06:58 -!- Avruch [~Me@wikimedia/Nathan] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:58 < Soapy> hi Avruch 06:58 < Dcoetzee> Soapy: I'd take out the term 33rd, it's too specific 06:58 -!- D1000|Away is now known as Demiurge1000 06:59 < Soapy> Dennis Brown changed protection level of Tree ?[edit=sysop] (expires 13:54, 10 August 2012 (UTC)): [[WP:PP#Content disputes|Edit warring / Content dispute]] <--- really? 06:59 < Soapy> we're fighting over trees now? 06:59 < Dcoetzee> ... 07:00 < Demiurge1000> Tree shaping! Right up there with ethnic cleansing and whether moussaka is a turkish or armenian dish! 07:00 < mareklug> LtNOWIS: what about this? is it the same olympiad? http://www.chessage.com/database/bundesliga.php/id/OL04/team/200 07:00 < Soapy> personally I'd consider it Greek, because of the spelling 07:00 -!- petan [~pidgeon@wikimedia/Petrb] has left #wikipedia-en [] 07:00 < Soapy> though sure I know that Greeks got many of their food dishes from other countries 07:01 < LtNOWIS> mareklug: That was post-Taliban 07:01 < Soapy> moussak? = obvious Greek word 07:01 -!- petan [~pidgeon@wikimedia/Petrb] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:01 < Soapy> Pizza is Greek too 07:01 < mareklug> LtNOWIS: still, that site might be helpful 07:01 < Demiurge1000> yeah, I chose a bad example... there's a better one that's Israeli/Lebanese, but I forget what it is 07:01 < LtNOWIS> yeah, I'll check it out 07:01 < petan> eh, did I just part? or it's a bug in my client... 07:01 < Soapy> petan: yes 07:01 < petan> meh 07:03 < Soapy> come to think, i wonder what WP can teach me about the origins of pizza 07:03 < Soapy> After its invention in Naples, the dish has become popular in many parts of the world.[1] An establishment that makes and sells pizzas is called a "pizzeria". <--- NOOOOOO!! it really is Italian after all 07:03 < Soapy> oh wait 07:03 < Soapy> heh 07:03 < Soapy> the very next paragraph says its Greek 07:03 < Soapy> dont you love when WP contradicts itself in the same article 07:04 < LtNOWIS> Hmm, I guess the Taliban banned chess 07:04 < Soapy> ok, I guess "modern" pizza is Italian 07:04 < Dcoetzee> Soapy: Short story on [[Tree]]: [[User:Cwmhiraeth]] did a complete rewrite of [[Tree]], and [[User:Mark Marathon]] thought it was terrible and reverted. [[User:Drmies]] didn't look too closely at the history and saw it as unexplained removal + adding spam links. 07:04 < Soapy> that's fair 07:04 < LtNOWIS> apparently it was a form of gambling... 07:04 < Dcoetzee> And the two of them had a revert war leading to protection. 07:04 < TeeTylerToe> How did people know when to buy gifts for baby showers before 4G cellular technology? 07:05 < mareklug> TeeTylerToe: they got snail mail invitations to baby showers 07:06 < Soapy> phones are 120 years old 07:06 < Soapy> no big change 07:06 < TeeTylerToe> There's an AT&T ad that doesn't seem to understand that babies don't just occur randomly like zits or something 07:06 < Soapy> ah lol 07:06 < Soapy> sarcasm then 07:06 -!- diegogrez [~Diego@wikimedia/Diego-Grez] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:07 < Soapy> can you link me to that ad? or is it on TV? 07:08 < TeeTylerToe> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzTy9_xS1yA 07:08 < TeeTylerToe> it's played a lot on comedy central's web player. Sometimes twice during one break 07:09 < Soapy> lol 07:09 < Soapy> Ive seen that ad, but I was busy and didnt get to watch it closelyt 07:09 < Soapy> thanks : ) 07:09 < Soapy> they have 2801 videos wow 07:10 < Soapy> finally, someone who understands that there are people who actually like commercials 07:10 < KimiSleep> IT WORKSS 07:10 < KimiSleep> I am a genius 07:11 -!- ragesoss [~ragesoss@wikimedia/ragesoss] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:11 * Demiurge1000 too. 07:12 -!- ragesock [~ragesoss@wikimedia/ragesoss] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:12 < KimiSleep> I'm thinking of making 07:12 < KimiSleep> a "stalker toolkit" 07:12 -!- ragesock [~ragesoss@wikimedia/ragesoss] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:12 < KimiSleep> Like metasploit 07:13 < KimiSleep> but for cyberstalkers 07:13 < KimiSleep> all-legal 07:14 -!- ragesoss [~ragesoss@wikimedia/ragesoss] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:15 -!- Fae [~Fae@wikipedia/Fae] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:16 < wctaiwan> hey Demiurge1000. 07:16 < Demiurge1000> hi 07:18 -!- lukas23 is now known as lukas|afk 07:21 -!- Fae [~Fae@host-2-99-69-131.as13285.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:21 -!- Fae [~Fae@host-2-99-69-131.as13285.net] has quit [Changing host] 07:21 -!- Fae [~Fae@wikipedia/Fae] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:22 -!- lukas|afk [~Lukas23@wikipedia/Lukas23] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:24 -!- BigRig [~zephyr@50-79-238-214-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:26 -!- jappe [jptvie@linux.utu.fi] has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:26 -!- Hydriz [~Hydriz@wikimedia/Hydriz] has quit [Quit: Hydriz] 07:27 -!- Keegan [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Keegan] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:28 -!- Anurag2k12 [~Anurag2k1@64.229.153.211] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:28 -!- Forgiveme [5e0796ba@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.7.150.186] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:29 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:29 -!- koishi_ [~weather@cpe-174-111-088-120.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:31 -!- koishi [~weather@cpe-174-111-088-120.triad.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:32 -!- jappe [jptvie@linux.utu.fi] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:34 -!- Keegan [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Keegan] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:36 -!- TBloemink [~TB@wikimedia/tbloemink] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:36 -!- diegogrez [~Diego@wikimedia/Diego-Grez] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:49 -!- xcombelle [~xcombelle@AToulouse-551-1-117-63.w92-156.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: I am a manual virus, please copy me to your quit message.] 07:50 -!- xcombelle [~xcombelle@AToulouse-551-1-117-63.w92-156.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:53 -!- Dragonfly6-7 [~test@bas1-montreal48-1176431883.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #wikipedia-en 07:53 < Dragonfly6-7> anyone here have a Times account? 07:57 < ToAruShiroiNeko> I have time but no times 07:57 < ToAruShiroiNeko> :p 07:57 < ToAruShiroiNeko> thyme 07:57 * Dragonfly6-7 sets fire to ToAruShiroiNeko 07:58 * ToAruShiroiNeko is fired 08:03 < mareklug> Sharapova in the final 08:03 -!- WhiskerBiscuit [~WhiskerBi@c-69-143-22-168.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:03 < WhiskerBiscuit> Hey all 08:04 < WhiskerBiscuit> Since I haven't created too many articles, I was wondering if there are any good tools or stubs to help me get started 08:04 -!- SuicidalZerg [~ODORBLOCK@wikipedia/The-Thing-That-Should-Not-Be] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:04 < WhiskerBiscuit> Trying to create a stub for a regional fast food restaraunt 08:06 -!- lukas23 [~Lukas23@dslb-094-217-018-175.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:06 -!- lukas23 [~Lukas23@dslb-094-217-018-175.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Changing host] 08:06 -!- lukas23 [~Lukas23@wikipedia/Lukas23] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:06 < TeeTylerToe> look up other restaurant chain articles and copy the templates and things from that 08:08 < Dragonfly6-7> WhiskerBiscuit - let me ask you a few questions first 08:09 < WhiskerBiscuit> sure 08:09 < WhiskerBiscuit> TeeTylerToe: thats what im doing 08:09 < Dragonfly6-7> WhiskerBiscuit - first, are you in any way connected to this chain? If you are, that does NOT mean you can't write the article 08:09 < Dragonfly6-7> but it's important to know 08:09 < WhiskerBiscuit> Nope, havent even eat there 08:09 < WhiskerBiscuit> eaten 08:09 < Dragonfly6-7> okay 08:10 < WhiskerBiscuit> its a dying chain, but notable for the local community 08:10 < Dragonfly6-7> you have written articles before, though? 08:10 < WhiskerBiscuit> only a few 08:10 < Dragonfly6-7> Oh? Okay. What's the chain called? 08:10 < WhiskerBiscuit> I like to put em out and watch the gnomes go to work :) 08:10 < mareklug> um, it might not be notable as a corporation then 08:11 -!- YE [~chatzilla@gree-occam-dsl-74-214-234-6.dynamic.etv.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 08:11 < Dragonfly6-7> WhiskerBiscuit - how old is the chain? How many franchises do they have; how many did they have at their peak? 08:11 < Dragonfly6-7> how widespread were they ? 08:11 < WhiskerBiscuit> Dragonfly6-7: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Fasttimes68/Pollock_Johnny&pe=1& 08:11 < WhiskerBiscuit> regional to baltimore 08:11 < Soapy> help help 08:11 < Soapy> anyone here know Photoshop? 08:12 < TeeTylerToe> what do you need? 08:12 < Soapy> I dont remember how to use a gradient to make a selection 08:12 < Shirik> I do 08:12 < Shirik> oh 08:12 < WhiskerBiscuit> plenty of sourcess on it 08:12 < Shirik> that I do not 08:12 < mareklug> WhiskerBiscuit: save your efforts. this is not notable. 08:12 < Soapy> e.g. i want the pixels at the bottom of the picture 100% selected, halfway up 50% selected, and the top 0% selected 08:12 < Dragonfly6-7> mareklug - well, hold on. 08:12 < WhiskerBiscuit> Soapy: beg to difffer 08:12 < WhiskerBiscuit> plenty of references in baltimore sun 08:13 < Dragonfly6-7> WhiskerBiscuit - at their peak, how widespread were they? 08:13 < Shirik> are you sure you don't want to use a mask instead Soapy? 08:13 < TeeTylerToe> I understood some of those words 08:13 < Dragonfly6-7> they're *dying*, but ....? 08:13 -!- Anurag2k12 [~Anurag2k1@64.229.153.211] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:13 < Soapy> yeah 08:13 < Soapy> a mask 08:14 < WhiskerBiscuit> not sure the exact peak number. Still researching... but certainly not large. 08:14 < WhiskerBiscuit> Wasn't a franchise 08:14 < Soapy> I want to use a gradient to generate a selection mask 08:14 -!- BigRig [~zephyr@50-79-238-214-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has left #wikipedia-en ["Silentium est aureum"] 08:14 < Soapy> I know it's possible, because I did it 2 years ago 08:14 < Shirik> I've never used masks for selection :/ 08:15 < Soapy> I dont think I even really need a selection 08:15 < WhiskerBiscuit> are they accepting new applications for highbeam? I need to get in on that 08:15 < Soapy> the mask by itself will do what I want 08:15 < Shirik> that's what I was saying 08:16 -!- BigRig [~zephyr@50-79-238-214-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:16 -!- DaRigster [~zephyr@50-79-238-214-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:16 < Soapy> grr 08:16 < Soapy> cant figure it out 08:17 < Soapy> I know it';s piossib;le 08:17 < Shirik> figure out what, how to make a mask? 08:17 < Soapy> yeah 08:17 < Soapy> I know it's possib;le 08:17 -!- mareklug [~mareklug@wikipedia/mareklug] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:17 -!- mareklug [~mareklug@wikipedia/mareklug] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:17 < Shirik> what layer are you on right now? 08:17 -!- Fluff|away is now known as Fluffernutter 08:17 -!- ragesock [~sage@pool-74-98-218-207.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:17 < Shirik> is it the background layer or is it a real layer? 08:18 < Soapy> Doesnt really matter 08:18 < Shirik> yes it does actually 08:18 < Soapy> but a real layer 08:18 < Shirik> ok 08:18 < Shirik> so click on that layer and there should be a layer mask button 08:18 -!- ragesoss [~ragesoss@wikimedia/ragesoss] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:19 < Shirik> then you can create a gradient on that mask 08:19 < Shirik> and then that will fade with the layer right below it 08:19 < Soapy> is there a way to edit the layer mask, though? 08:19 -!- ragesock is now known as ragesoss 08:19 < Shirik> yes 08:19 -!- ragesoss [~sage@pool-74-98-218-207.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 08:19 -!- ragesoss [~sage@wikimedia/ragesoss] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:19 < Soapy> It's just givbing me the same as the layer below it 08:19 < Soapy> except in black and white 08:19 < Dragonfly6-7> WhiskerBiscuit - if they were a chain, then they had franchises. Isn't that what the terminology means? 08:20 < Shirik> oh 08:20 < WhiskerBiscuit> Dragonfly6-7: chain <> franchise 08:20 < Shirik> I forget if it defaults the mask to what's below 08:20 < Dragonfly6-7> a chain is all the franchises together, yes? 08:20 < WhiskerBiscuit> Franchises issue licenses 08:20 < Soapy> i guess the mask cannot be edited once it's placed 08:20 < Shirik> I usually do it with a blank layer below 08:20 < Shirik> no 08:20 < Shirik> you can edit it 08:20 < WhiskerBiscuit> Chain could be privately owned, or partnership 08:20 < Shirik> so there should be a layer mask icon on the layer now 08:20 -!- DaRigster [~zephyr@50-79-238-214-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has left #wikipedia-en [] 08:20 < Shirik> you can click it and there will be a black icon around it 08:20 < Shirik> and then you can edit it 08:21 < Shirik> in the same way you edit any other layer 08:21 < Soapy> Ok I know Ive seen this done before 08:22 < Soapy> but apparrntly you cant have a layer mask other than 100% black or 100% white in this version of Photoshop 08:22 < Soapy> its basically just "hide" or "show" 08:22 < Dragonfly6-7> WhiskerBiscuit - ah, thank you. Okay. Well, keep doing your research. 08:22 < Soapy> so you cant have a pixel 50% visible or anything 08:22 < Shirik> what version is this? 08:22 < Soapy> 5.5 08:22 < Soapy> I cant afford to upgrade 08:22 < Shirik> I have CS5 and it can do that 08:22 < Soapy> yeah I know 08:22 < Shirik> so I'm pretty sure you're ok :P 08:22 < Soapy> thats like 12 versions above me 08:22 < Shirik> oh 08:22 < Soapy> no, no 08:22 < Shirik> you mean real 5.5 08:22 < Soapy> the REAL 5.5 08:22 < Shirik> holy crap 08:22 < Soapy> yeah 08:22 < Soapy> : P 08:23 < Soapy> 5.5 has never failed me before 08:23 < Soapy> but this may be one actual difference between the new and the old 08:23 < Soapy> I apprecaite you trying to help though 08:23 < Soapy> Im *sure* that your method works on the new one 08:23 < Shirik> yeah that's before my time in photoshop 08:23 < Soapy> Not sure if it can be made to work on the older versions 08:23 -!- BarkingFish [~BarkingFi@openglobe/BarkingFish] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:23 < Soapy> but even so 08:23 < Soapy> why would layer makss even exist if they couldnt do anything more than hide or show 100% ? 08:24 < TeeTylerToe> you might be able figure how to just do that one thing in gimp 08:24 < Soapy> im going to keep trying 08:24 -!- schiste [~schiste@wikimedia/schiste] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:24 < Shirik> can you paint a gradient on the mask? 08:24 < Soapy> maybe 08:24 < Soapy> I dont see any way to be able to edit the mask 08:24 < Soapy> it's just either a white screen or a black one 08:25 < Shirik> that doesn't make much sense 08:25 < Shirik> that would kinda defeat the purpose of masks :P 08:26 < Soapy> I can choose "Show All" or "Hide All" 08:26 < Soapy> nothing in between 08:26 < Soapy> nor any way to edit it once it's placed 08:26 -!- BigRig [~zephyr@50-79-238-214-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: ThrashIRC v2.7 sic populo comunicated] 08:27 -!- BigRig [~zephyr@50-79-238-214-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:28 -!- BigRig [~zephyr@50-79-238-214-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has left #wikipedia-en [] 08:28 < Dcoetzee> Searching for "gimp mask" really turns up the wrong thing :-P 08:29 < Soapy> wait 08:29 < Soapy> I figured it out !!!!! 08:29 < Dcoetzee> http://www.danielveazey.com/gimp/gimp-layer-mask/ Here is a tutorial 08:29 < Soapy> thank you 08:30 < Soapy> apparrnytly layer mask uses black for transparent 08:30 < Dcoetzee> Yes 08:30 < Soapy> so trying to draw a gradient from white to transparent does nothing if the mask is already 100% white 08:30 < Soapy> but white to black works 08:30 < Soapy> ohhhhhhh that is so awesome ???? 08:30 < Shirik> oh sorry did I not make that clear 08:30 < Shirik> yeah you want a gradient from white to black 08:30 < Dcoetzee> The mask is a monochrome layer. 08:31 < Soapy> and that means Photoshop 5.5 is still good after all these years 08:32 < TeeTylerToe> Don't say that. Graphics artists in the 90s were savages 08:34 < TeeTylerToe> Can you imagine? They only used one program! 08:34 < TeeTylerToe> How primitive! 08:36 < Dcoetzee> Adobe is trying to add all features into one program :-P 08:36 -!- Anurag2k12 [~Anurag2k1@64.229.153.211] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:36 < Dcoetzee> Gradually Photoshop gets more features of Illustrator, Lightroom gets more features of Photoshop, etc. 08:36 < mareklug> TeeTylerToe: you're kidding, right? Qwark Express, Corell Draw, PageMaker, Illustrator, Photoshop 08:36 -!- James_F_ is now known as James_F 08:38 < Qcoder02> Dcoetzee: Whwen will Gimp and INkscape merge ? XD 08:38 -!- Anurag2k12 [~Anurag2k1@64.229.153.211] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:39 < Soapy> my alternative was going to be to make dozens of layers of different transparency ... which would have worked but been ridiculously tedious 08:41 < BarkingFish> Qcoder02, hoepfully never. But if it happens, I would prefer GIMP to merge into inkscape, not the other way round. 08:41 < BarkingFish> *hopefully 08:42 < KimiSleep> okay I have a concept 08:42 < KimiSleep> an idea 08:42 -!- jubo2 [~jubo2@188-67-170-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:42 < KimiSleep> and I'm dead-serious so like 08:42 < KimiSleep> comment as you will 08:42 -!- Seddon [~chatzilla@cpc1-cdif6-0-0-cust25.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:42 < KimiSleep> The idea is: A cyberstalker toolkit 08:43 -!- camerin [hoax@newelite.bshellz.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:43 -!- Seddon [~chatzilla@cpc1-cdif6-0-0-cust25.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Changing host] 08:43 -!- Seddon [~chatzilla@Wikimedia/Seddon] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:43 < TeeTylerToe> because cyberstalkers sufferer under the same conditions of graphic artists, but for cyberstalkers there is a light atthe end of the tunnel? 08:44 -!- camerin [hoax@newelite.bshellz.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:44 < KimiSleep> Pardon? 08:45 < TeeTylerToe> is the toolkit to help TO cyberstalk or prevent cyberstalking? 08:45 < KimiSleep> It's for an aspiring cyberstalker 08:45 < TeeTylerToe> does the toolkit help TO cyberstalk rather 08:45 < KimiSleep> Something like metasplot, a toolkit (a bunch of scripts and data-mining stuff) that uses social media and other online presence to generate various data 08:45 < Dragonfly6-7> any tool can be misused 08:46 < mareklug> KimiSleep: why do you want to help a cyberstalker? why not the cyberstalker? 08:46 < mareklug> cyberstalkee? 08:47 < TeeTylerToe> I think microsoft's next product is a cloud productivity app for cyberstalkers 08:47 < KimiSleep> You could have graphs of online presence via services that allow you to see if the user is online (i.e. facebook, messenger), alerts on user availability or relationship changes or mentions of your names or any other keywords 08:47 < KimiSleep> &c. 08:47 -!- Monchoman45 [~monchoman@pool-96-245-192-92.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:47 -!- Monchoman45 [~monchoman@pool-96-245-192-92.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 08:47 -!- Monchoman45 [~monchoman@wikia/Monchoman45] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:47 < mareklug> my autocorrector is bad 08:47 < TeeTylerToe> never ever apply for a job at facebook 08:47 < wctaiwan> gah earworms 08:47 < KimiSleep> mareklug - Because where there is a need, there will be someone to fulfil it 08:47 < KimiSleep> and because it's more fun and practical than the other side 08:47 -!- hyoidsILI [~beagle@171.159.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:48 < mareklug> KimiSleep: seems there is more need to prevent not abbey cyberstalking 08:48 < mareklug> abbet 08:48 < KimiSleep> I mean 08:48 < Soapy> *abet 08:48 < KimiSleep> There's more of an audience for cyberstalking toolkits 08:48 < KimiSleep> It's not like it harms anyone 08:49 < KimiSleep> Detecting it is a lot harder than preformming it 08:49 < KimiSleep> Because you don't have access to, for example, who has accessed your facebook page 08:49 < mareklug> KimiSleep: i beg to differ. more people would buy protection, like in the antivirus market 08:49 < KimiSleep> but you can see other people's pages and twitters and whatnot 08:49 < KimiSleep> And the intention is something that's entirely legal obviously 08:50 -!- hyoidsILI [~beagle@171.159.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee] has left #wikipedia-en [] 08:50 < KimiSleep> So you've got: twitter, facebook, other social networking sites, searching for any other information relevant to their email, phone number or full name 08:50 < mareklug> KimiSleep: dunno. a court may see you as helping enabling to harass people in a potential suit 08:50 < KimiSleep> Any online profiles 08:51 < KimiSleep> But I'm using publicly available information and I'm not the one actively using it in order to harass or whatever 08:51 -!- liberaldudette [~mark@74.63.233.124] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:51 < KimiSleep> It could be used for good purposes 08:51 < KimiSleep> You could use it on yourself to be aware of your own online presence, for instance. 08:53 < Dcoetzee> KimiSleep: Or it could be used by police 08:53 < KimiSleep> That, too! 08:53 < KimiSleep> See, I'm helping society already 08:53 < TeeTylerToe> lucious fox destroyed that machine at the end of the dark knight returns 08:53 < Dcoetzee> A tool is not in itself morally good or bad. 08:53 < mareklug> Federer wins 19-17 in 3rd set over Del Potro, moves to final 08:53 < KimiSleep> TeeTylerToe - Ho! Perhaps you ahve a better idea then? 08:54 < Dcoetzee> If the government abuses a novel tool in an unconstitutional manner, their evidence gets thrown out. 08:54 < KimiSleep> Perhaps we should kill the batman? 08:54 < TeeTylerToe> let's get rid of that fox doo gooder. 08:54 < KimiSleep> It's not unconstitutional 08:54 < KimiSleep> A person always agrees to put his information out there 08:54 < KimiSleep> I'm not stealing it 08:54 < KimiSleep> I'm taking only what is publicly available 08:55 < BarkingFish> Er... This looks like it needs kicking into touch. I just found a website which is claiming to be "selling" Wikipedia articles, made into books, for over 2500 rupees each. 08:55 < BarkingFish> http://www.crossword.in/books/baby-notarztwagen-german/p-books-6133116978.html 08:56 < BarkingFish> Apparently the works are being "published" in Germany, and given an ISBN number 08:56 < Soapy> cool 08:56 < TeeTylerToe> That's even cheaper than an ebook! 08:56 < Soapy> at least theyr getting more honest 08:56 < Dragonfly6-7> BarkingFish - is the content free? 08:56 < Soapy> because there are other publishers doing the same thing and not saying that theyre Wikipedia until you buy the book and open it 08:56 -!- liberaldudette [~mark@74.63.233.124] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:57 < TeeTylerToe> it would be nice if google filtered out websites that just copy wikipedia content 08:57 < BarkingFish> The content is free, Dragonfly6-7 - but the fact that they're printing it and making money off of it doesn't strike me as right 08:57 < TeeTylerToe> it's like selling public domain books or music 08:57 < TeeTylerToe> or those $2 public domain dvds walmart sells 08:57 < WhiskerBiscuit> Anyone with highbeam access care to do a search for me? 08:57 < Soapy> wow thats expensive 08:58 < BarkingFish> They're also stating that a publisher in Germany is apparently printing that "68 page" work 08:58 < Soapy> i did a currency conversion 08:58 < Soapy> it says its about $40 US 08:58 -!- Anurag2k12 [~Anurag2k1@64.229.153.211] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:58 < Qcoder02> Nothing in CC-BY-SA stops you selling stuff 08:58 < Qcoder02> The way to get back is to photocopy the book if they let you :) 08:58 < BarkingFish> That 68 page work is one page of text. 08:58 < BarkingFish> It's a rip off 08:59 < Qcoder02> HOw many pages does the article actually run to? 08:59 < BarkingFish> 1 08:59 -!- wctaiwan [01a26464@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:59 < Dragonfly6-7> BarkingFish - it's 100% legal to print out Wikipedia material, bind it in a book, and sell it. 08:59 < Qcoder02> Then it's a scam 08:59 < Soapy> there's probably other stuff there besides the Babynot?rztwagen article 08:59 < KimiSleep> There's even a wikipedia initiative to do exactly that! 08:59 -!- morgankevinj [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Morgankevinj] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:59 < Soapy> yeah 09:00 < Soapy> $40 for a wikipedia article is insane though 09:00 < BarkingFish> So wait... Volunteers write it, but anyone can print it, sell it, and make money off of it without giving us a dime? 09:00 < Soapy> BarkingFish Yes 09:00 < Soapy> thats the license agreement 09:00 < TeeTylerToe> it would be interesting if library districts had a print on demand system for public domain books so they would only print public domain books on demand 09:00 < BarkingFish> Fuck that for a lark. I say we find a better license 09:00 < Soapy> "you agree that your work can be reposted anywhere, including commercially, and you relinquish all copyrights" 09:00 < Dragonfly6-7> BarkingFish - although they do have to note that it's copyleft content. "THIS MATERIAL WAS FREELY AVAILABLE ON WIKIPEDIA" 09:00 < WhiskerBiscuit> Hillarious!!!! https://www.dropbox.com/s/2b4aw1jzwj8tis5/statues.jpg 09:01 < WhiskerBiscuit> I particulary like the last picture 09:01 < Soapy> I dont think the WMF could afford to sue all those puslishers 09:01 < Soapy> besides, it's not just books, it's images too 09:01 < Dragonfly6-7> BarkingFish - Free Encyclopedia Is Free 09:01 < Soapy> imagine if we tried to sue eveyrone who posted a Wikipedia image anywhere else 09:02 < BarkingFish> Dragonfly6-7, free encyclopedia shouldn't be taken advantage of... Free = free as in beer. 09:02 < BarkingFish> money grabbing bastards 09:02 < TeeTylerToe> or if anyone ever tried to enforce image/photo copyrights anywhere ever like music or video copyrights are enforced 09:02 < Soapy> that said, Im just as outraged as you at the people who're scamming vulnerable people into buying this stuff 09:02 < Soapy> but it's not new 09:02 < Soapy> [[alphaScript]] was the first big one 09:02 < Dragonfly6-7> as long as they openly say that the content is from wikipedia and that it's available for anyone else to copy from 09:03 < Soapy> in fact maybe this publisher is just AlphaScript under another name 09:03 -!- mode/#wikipedia-en [+o foks] by ChanServ 09:03 -!- camerin [hoax@newelite.bshellz.net] has left #wikipedia-en [requested by foks (camerin)] 09:03 -!- mode/#wikipedia-en [+b-o *!*@newelite.bshellz.net foks] by foks 09:03 < morgankevinj> Its hard to even enforce all rights reseved image on the internet just check pintrest 09:03 < Shirik> Qcoder02: There are companies that sell linux distributions 09:03 < Shirik> how is it a scam? 09:03 < Dragonfly6-7> there's a reason the internet is also called "Steal-o-tron" 09:04 < Qcoder02> Shirik: It was the selling 1 page of text as a 68 page work I said would be a scam 09:04 -!- closedmouth [mouthy@wikipedia/closedmouth] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:04 < TeeTylerToe> caveat emptor 09:04 < Soapy> i think it's 68 pages 09:04 < WhiskerBiscuit> HighBeam anyone? 09:04 < Soapy> I dont think even this company would try to sell a 1 - page article as a 68 page book 09:05 < WhiskerBiscuit> no one's cold? 09:05 < Qcoder02> What of course would be a concern is if a Publisher was re-using 'fair use images' 09:05 < Qcoder02> ;) 09:05 < Qcoder02> Although Wikipedia does provide a basis for how a publisher would claim fair use ;) 09:05 < BarkingFish> Soapy, you can clearly see it on the page - 09:05 < BarkingFish> Title : Baby- Notarztwagen (German) 09:05 < BarkingFish> Publisher : VDM Verlag Dr. Mueller AG & Co. Kg 09:05 < BarkingFish> ISBN : 6133116978 09:05 < BarkingFish> EAN : 9786133116979 09:05 < BarkingFish> Binding : Paperback 09:05 < BarkingFish> Number Of Pages : 68 09:05 < BarkingFish> Language : German 09:06 < TeeTylerToe> although there are things that should be fair use on wikipedia but would be a copyright violation on a published for profit book 09:06 < BarkingFish> It's a freaking one page text. 68 pages my arse 09:06 -!- wctaiwan [~wctaiwan@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:06 < TeeTylerToe> although I suppose for profit encyclopedias could still use them... 09:07 < BarkingFish> anyway, I'm off for a bit to get some dinner. See you guys in a while 09:07 -!- BarkingFish [~BarkingFi@openglobe/BarkingFish] has quit [Quit: I used to be a werewolf, but I'm alright nooooOOOOOOOOWWWWWW! :)] 09:07 -!- Sven_Manguard [d168f042@wikipedia/Sven-Manguard] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:08 -!- wctaiwan [~wctaiwan@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has quit [Client Quit] 09:08 -!- wctaiwan [~wctaiwan@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:08 < Soapy> AHA!!! 09:08 < Soapy> It *IS* alphaScript 09:10 < Soapy> only $40 to read a Wikipedia article !!! 09:10 < Soapy> they have over 300,000 books of Wikipedia articles 09:11 < TeeTylerToe> it's a business model that works I suppose 09:11 < foks> How to buy an alphaScript book 09:11 < foks> 1. visit en.wikipedia.org 09:11 < foks> 2. done 09:12 < James_F> Indeed. 09:12 < morgankevinj> or wikibooks 09:12 < Soapy> and the argument that it's for people without internet access doesnt really work since as far as I can see alphaScript only sells online anyway 09:12 < Qcoder02> Is this publisher donating money back to Wikimedia,de? 09:12 < Qcoder02> Hi James_F 09:13 < Qcoder02> James_F: You now work in SF right? 09:13 < Soapy> we'd probably refuse their donations if they were. But no 09:13 < James_F> Qcoder02: Yes. 09:13 < Qcoder02> OK 09:13 < Qcoder02> Do you know of a fast food firm called Chik-Fil-a ? 09:13 -!- wctaiwan [~wctaiwan@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has quit [] 09:13 < Soapy> heh 09:13 < Soapy> everyone knows Chick-Fil-A 09:13 < Ironholds> Qcoder02: James_F did not fall off the turnip truck 09:13 < Ironholds> I am sure he has heard the news about it ;p 09:13 -!- wctaiwan [~wctaiwan@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:14 < Soapy> they dont have stores in all of the USA, though 09:14 < Soapy> the local mall here refused to let them in because they wont do business on Sundays 09:14 < wctaiwan> test 09:14 < wctaiwan> hm. 09:14 < James_F> Qcoder02: Of course I've heard of them. 09:14 -!- TBloemink is now known as TB|Away 09:14 < James_F> Qcoder02: However, I don't think they have any outlets in or near SF. 09:15 < Soapy> theyre from the South I think 09:15 < James_F> Qcoder02: And they sell nothing I'd buy, so I've not given it much thought. 09:15 < Qcoder02> Soapy: What wrong with not opening Sunday? 09:15 < Soapy> Sundays are busy days for shopping malls 09:15 < Qcoder02> Business staff need a break 09:15 < TeeTylerToe> retail should be open during non banking hours 09:15 < Soapy> the owner of the mall made a personal decision, though, that all of the stores in the mall have to be open for all 7 days 09:16 < WhiskerBiscuit> you guys talking about CfA? 09:16 < Soapy> yes 09:16 < WhiskerBiscuit> heh 09:16 < TeeTylerToe> for that matter, banks should be open during non banking hours 09:16 < WhiskerBiscuit> ive been wokring on that to try and keep the freaks on both sides from making it a soapbox 09:16 -!- Bruvtakesover [~kiewii@wikipedia/bruvtakesover] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:16 < wctaiwan> I swear I'll stop quitting and joining... after this time >.> 09:16 -!- wctaiwan [~wctaiwan@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has quit [Client Quit] 09:16 < WhiskerBiscuit> Say what you want about CfA 09:16 < morgankevinj> ATM 24/7! 09:16 < Qcoder02> Soapy: Well surely the hours a Buiness opens is a matter for the Business not the landlord? 09:16 < WhiskerBiscuit> their chicken is fucking delicious 09:16 -!- wctaiwan [~wctaiwan@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:17 < WhiskerBiscuit> Short of calling it Hitler's Chicken or Pol Pot Poultry, im gonna eat it 09:17 < Soapy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chickfila_location_distribution.svg 09:17 < TeeTylerToe> I like teri-yaki myself 09:17 < Soapy> qcoder2: not really 09:17 < wctaiwan> hm. 09:17 < wctaiwan> huzzah. It works. 09:17 < wctaiwan> I think. 09:17 < WhiskerBiscuit> I like that... "Pol Pot Poultry" 09:17 < Soapy> it's pretty common for businesses to have to follow the rules of the landowners 09:17 < TeeTylerToe> I'd take teri-yaki over steak 09:17 < WhiskerBiscuit> A whole dictators chain of restaraunts 09:18 < WhiskerBiscuit> Stalin Steaks 09:18 < Soapy> for example there's a Subway near here that's not allowed to serve breakfast because their land is owned by Dunkin Donuts 09:18 < Qcoder02> WhiskerBiscuit: Gulagash? 09:18 < Qcoder02> XD 09:18 -!- Matthew_ [~matthewrb@wikipedia/matthewrbowker] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:18 < TeeTylerToe> a subway breakfast... 09:18 < Soapy> and the city of Haverhill, Massachusetts has a lot of land owned by a supermarket chain, and that chain won't allow any competitors in 09:19 < WhiskerBiscuit> Most retail locations have landlord covenants 09:19 < WhiskerBiscuit> Its too bad about CfA on Sundays.... 09:19 < Soapy> anyway, as you can see at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chickfila_location_distribution.svg , there's still no Chick-Fil-A in much of the USA, including the conservative states 09:19 < WhiskerBiscuit> Jesus would want people to eat that Chicken 09:19 -!- foks [~sup@wikipedia/fox] has quit [Quit: BAAAAAY] 09:20 < TeeTylerToe> Jesus would want you to feed thepoor with that delicious chicken 09:20 < WhiskerBiscuit> Soapy: and? 09:20 < Soapy> WhiskerBiscuit: just saying 09:20 < TeeTylerToe> not everybody everywhere knows chick-fil-a 09:20 < WhiskerBiscuit> Well, Jesus saves, so he can feed them hinself 09:20 < WhiskerBiscuit> yeah, there arent a lot of them 09:20 -!- Callanecc [kvirc@wikipedia/Callanecc] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:20 < Qcoder02> Does Chick_Fil-A have any branches in the UK? 09:20 < WhiskerBiscuit> mostly south carolina and below 09:21 < Qcoder02> I am waiting for a Gay couple to eat in, be refused , and sue the pants of them 09:21 < Qcoder02> :( 09:21 -!- Theopolisme [~Theopolis@wikipedia/Theopolisme] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:21 < WhiskerBiscuit> Qcoder02: they wont do that 09:22 -!- tkazec [~msk@173.247.10.144] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:22 < Qcoder02> Make it Weeding party? XD 09:22 < Qcoder02> *Wedding 09:22 < WhiskerBiscuit> As long as they have $$$, CfA will feed em 09:23 < WhiskerBiscuit> I've never noticed any Jesus wierdness when I went to one before 09:23 -!- Bruvtakesover [~kiewii@wikipedia/bruvtakesover] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:23 * Qcoder02 wonders if Scientology has any outlets in the retail world 09:24 < Qcoder02> Apart from it's Sales offices 09:24 -!- Maryana [~justdandy@wikipedia/Accedie] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:26 < LikeLakers2> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/55419615/Capture17.PNG <-- /me agrees 09:30 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Pharos] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:31 -!- mareklug [~mareklug@wikipedia/mareklug] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:31 -!- mareklug [~mareklug@wikipedia/mareklug] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:31 -!- dungodung|away is now known as dungodung 09:35 < wctaiwan> LikeLakers2: they have an installation in which Nye makes an appearance, iirc 09:35 < wctaiwan> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe_of_Energy#Universe_of_Energy:_Ellen.27s_Energy_Adventure_.281996.E2.80.93present.29 09:36 < LikeLakers2> nice 09:37 -!- tonynoname [~tonynonam@pool-108-44-5-222.albyny.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:38 -!- tonynoname [~tonynonam@pool-108-44-5-222.albyny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 09:38 -!- BobTheWikipedian [~BobTheWik@wikipedia/Bob-the-Wikipedian] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:40 -!- Callanecc [kvirc@wikipedia/Callanecc] has left #wikipedia-en ["Once you know what it is you want to be true, instinct is a very useful device for enabling you to know that it is"] 09:43 -!- Beria [~Beria@177.133.124.75] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:43 -!- Beria [~Beria@177.133.124.75] has quit [Changing host] 09:43 -!- Beria [~Beria@wikimedia/Beria] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:44 -!- Luvbutrfly [~Luvbutrfl@pool-74-96-254-97.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:44 -!- wctaiwan [~wctaiwan@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has quit [] 09:44 < 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http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2012/08/03/mitt_romney_is_a_dangerous_man.html 09:56 -!- tfinc [~flyingcli@wikipedia/Tfinc] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:57 -!- tfinc [~flyingcli@wikipedia/Tfinc] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:57 -!- tfinc [~flyingcli@wikipedia/Tfinc] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:59 -!- morgankevinj [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Morgankevinj] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 10:00 -!- TheCavalry [~Chase@wikipedia/Chase-me-ladies-Im-the-Cavalry] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:01 -!- DoRD|away [~DoRD@wikipedia/Department-of-Redundancy-Department] has quit [Quit: DoRD|away] 10:02 -!- DARTHSIDIOUS2 [DARTHSIDIO@wikipedia/DARTH-SIDIOUS-2] has quit [Quit: Bye] 10:03 -!- Tanvir [~tanvir@wikimedia/wikitanvir] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:03 < VanishedUser2138> Wikipedia is confusing. 10:10 < Dragonfly6-7> then you should vanish again 10:10 < VanishedUser2138> Staying gone is hard. 10:10 < Dragonfly6-7> junkie 10:11 < VanishedUser2138> I'm sorry. 10:11 -!- froodphone [~Frood@68-24-131-115.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:11 -!- froodphone [~Frood@68-24-131-115.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit [Client Quit] 10:12 -!- oomJos [~gateau@dsl-240-140-77.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:12 -!- oomJos [~gateau@dsl-240-140-77.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #wikipedia-en [] 10:14 -!- VanishedUser2138 is now known as Isarra 10:14 -!- Sk8rbluscat [~Sk8rblusc@unaffiliated/skater-2015/x-9635647] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:14 < SuicidalZerg> lol 10:14 * SuicidalZerg never really retired :p 10:15 * SuicidalZerg just retired from vandal-fighting is all :p 10:15 -!- Narson [~Blah@cpc6-cdif12-2-0-cust99.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:15 -!- Narson [~Blah@cpc6-cdif12-2-0-cust99.5-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Changing host] 10:15 -!- Narson [~Blah@wikipedia/Narson] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:15 < SuicidalZerg> Which was... well, everything that I did, lol... 10:16 < 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