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There is a copy of the book at Harvard University. Print run from 1878 Link

• Title: Compendio storico dell' isola di Curzola
• Author: Nicolò Ostoich
• Publisher: tip. di G. Woditzka, 1878
• Original from: Harvard University
• Digitized: 23 Oct 2008

See also

• Korcula History (Historical Compendium of the Island of Korcula)
• Korcula History 2
• Korcula Dialect

Chapter 6

Population and Language (p26)

"Any way I know ancient Corcyra Melaena was colonized, or Greeks or others would be Liburni, anyone, even who's' support to the fabulous traditions of Diti and tell us how you know Dareti adduced raised dimoa and constitute the primitive inhabitants."

"But the Dalmatian war, which even took part in piracy since, which seems far from home in particular, exercised after the fellowship with the Narantani (Neretljani Slavs),"

Ancient Greek historians, Korcula and Nikola Ostojic

Question: Why would Ancient Greek historians write about a city on an island in the Adriatic? Furthermore why were they such powerful legends? There must be a story behind these legends. We have a confirmed colony on the island (Lumbarda Psephisma) and a mention of another colony, which has not been found yet.

Ancient Greek historians: Ditte, Compagoni, Darete and Phrygian below:

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Writings of Ditte who was a contemporary from Cretan. When writing about the war of Troy, he noted that Antenore was the first to land on the island and build a city. Other followers of his position claim that they were not exiles of Ilius, but fugitives of Gnido. In turn the vernacularisation of Ditte (work of Cav) Compagnoni, stated that Antenore remained in Greece, but the said Aeneas, was the likely leader of the colony and founder of the City of Curzola. This theory was competing with the opinion of Darete, Phrygian and other contemporaries.

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• Antun (Antnio) Rosanovic from Korcula wrote in 1571: "I firmly believe that from ancient times this was called Corcyra Melena or Nigra (Black Corcyra) probably because it is located similarly to the Greek island of Corfu, [1] both of these island are stretched in East-West direction and have similar names. Or it is possibly because it appears so dark from the sea, where the forests give it black-green appearance. In this sense, there was some poetry written and it goes as follows; “ I call myself Corcyra , but earlier they called me black, both of these I like. On the Adriatic, opposite the shores of Gargano you will not find an island as dark, covered with pine forests. This is because I call myself “black” and I believe that name Corcyra came from that." Here we hear a new voice that a circle wall was built around the city, and that these walls are called little heart."

The Ragusa Section

Original: ... col ' introduzione dei Rassiani a danni dell cattolicismo vollero soggiogare anco Curzola vicina, e percio ...

(col was originaly coll)

Google Translate: ... with the ' introduction of Rassiani to' damage of Catholicism took yet subduing nearby Korcula, and therefore...

The Croatian identity called Naši - meaning: The Us people

• Below taken from Dalmatia and Montenegro: With a Journey to Mostar in Herzegovina by John Gardner Wilkinson. Published in 1848 (p33).

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Naski (ours) or Illirskee is a Slavonic Dialect.

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• Editors notes: Naski or in Croatian Naški. The š is pronounced sh.

This is a term (a pronoun) which is used to describe ones identity is quiet odd! There is archaeological evidence from 16 century where the Croatian identity was used. Stone writings in Zavalatica are dedicated to events from 889 AD. It describes a clash between the Slavic population and the Venetian army. Marinko Gjivoje wrote about the find in 1972. The stone writings uses: Hrvat Dalmatinac in its writings. Hrvat means Croatian in Slavic.

Beato Antenonio

de Curzola. Dans une vallée exposée au soleil et nommée Dughipod, on voit, dit-il, « plusieurs gros amas de ... le doge décapité Beato Antenonio (en 829 de notre ère) ; c'est de là que serait venu le nom slave Ducelova gomilla, ... Congrès, international d'anthropologie et d'archéologie (p.440)

of Curzola. In a valley in summer and named Dughipod, you see, "he said," several large piles of ... Doge Beato Antenonio beheaded (in 829 AD), that's where the name would come Slavic Ducelova gomilla ...

Il pense que dans cette vaste plaine où peut manœuvrer une armée en bataille, s' est livré un combat et que sous l'imposant amas de pierres a été enseveli le doge décapité Beato Antenonio (en 829 de notre ère); c'est de là que serait ...

He thinks that in this vast plain where can maneuver an army in battle 's comes a fight and that, under the imposing pile of stone was buried the Doge Beato Antenonio beheaded (in 829 AD) is to that there would be Compte rendu (p.440)

CHAPTER II WOOERS OF THE ADRIATIC

A.D. 809 TO 960

VERY shortly after the departure of King Pepin from Rialto, Doge Beato degU Antenori either died and was buried with pomp in the Church of San Teodoro on the island, or was banished to Zara. Both fates have been recorded of him. One cannot say which is the true one. In any case, a Doge of a family more honourable than the degli Antenori was proclaimed before the year 811."The doges of Venice"

Blato

Interesting: Blato was called Blatta.

• In Romance Dalmatian bluta means wafer or host. Etymology from Latin oblāta.
• In Croatian blato means mud.

Below taken from www.ikorculainfo.com-Blato:

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The present appearance and bell tower beside it are from the 17th -18th centuries, the Baroque period. On the main altar is the painting All Saints by the Venetian artist Girolamo Da Santa Croce, from 1540. There is a large number of small churches and chapels in the city and the surroundings. The oldest is St. Cosmas and Damian (Sv. Kuzma I Damjan) from the 6th century (Early-Christian), followed by St. Mary in the. Field (Sv. Marija u polju), St. Martin and others. Blato has new houses but also many old ones with paved courtyards, trellis work and sheds. Here, too, there were summer houses of the Korcula nobility, outstanding among which is the Baroque castle Arneri in the town centre. It is to house the regional museum with archaeological, historical and ethnographic collections.

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Marko Marelic - S. Francisco - USA

• HISTORIJA "LEGENDARNE DEVET BRACE CRNOMIRA" Prilozi povijesti naselja ČARA Link

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Penny cyclopaedia of the Society for the Diffusion of Useful Knowledge

(Volume 8-Society for the Diffusion of Useful Knowledge Great Britain - 1837)

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The majority of the inhabitants are descendants of the Sclavonian hordes, who invaded these parts in the seventh century and drove out the old inhabitants.The language of the country is the Herzogovine dialect of the Sclavonian, but Italian is the prevalent tongue among the well-educated classes, and is used in the public offices and courts. The remainder of the population is composed of Italins (about 40 000) who are spread throuhg the maritime towns and the sea coast

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Local folk song: Zbogom, Moja Bobovišća Vala

Zbogom, Moja Bobovišća vala

kad san kanta, sva is odavala

Druga mladost kad bude kantati

valo moja, nemoj odavati

Zbogom, moje sve od Blata divnje

s kojima san uźa pasat vrime

(traditional)

Translation:

Goodbye my Bobvisča bay

When I sang ...

The issue of dates

The issue of dates is an interesting one. Historians from the 18th and 19th century place the arrival of the Slavs into the Western Balkans in the 7th century but the more modern research undertaken by scholars and archaeologists cannot confirm this. The arrival and settlement of the Slavs by some has now been thought to be more in the region of the 8th century or even early 9th century.

In my opinion they could be both correct. The first arrivals may have been with the Avars who were a nomadic people from Eurasian. This first wave of invasion would have been one of many in the region so the Romans would have abandoned their cities and towns (i.e. Epidaurum, Narona and Salona) and altogether their way of life. New cities were established with fortification. Cities such as Ragusa (today called Dubrovnik) and Spalatum later know as Spalato (today called Split). The cities that survived the invasions were fortified. The new arrivals would not have been significant enough to leave an historical footprint other than in the cities and towns of Roman Dalmatia where there remains physical evidence of attacks and raids.

The second wave appears to have been later but more gradual and slightly larger in numbers however nothing like the great wave of mass movement as describe by the 19th century Historians. By the time of the late 8th century and early 9th century their numbers were large enough to leave an historical footprint. This historical footprint would be the start of the written history as well as the recording of archaeological evidence. The historical footprint is one of settlement.

De Administrando Imperio & 0thers:

De Administrando Imperio (On the Governance of the Empire) by Constantine VII Porphyrogennetos is a book that was written between 948 and 952. It contains advice on running the empire as well as fighting foreign enemies. Constantine VII Porphyrogennetos was the emperor of the Eastern Roman Empire, sometimes known simply by its contemporaries as the Roman Empire. Today it is now know as The Byzantine Empire.

Porphyrogennetos would have written in terms of political identity rather than ethnicity. It was the Greco-Roman way. For a reader from the 10 century the book would have a different meaning than read by scholars from the 18th and 19th century.