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Session Start: Thu Oct 27 15:10:00 2011
Session Ident: #wikipedia-en
�03[15:10] * Now talking in #wikipedia-en
�03[15:10] * Topic is 'English Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/ | Status: Up (http://status.wikimedia.org/) | Channel guidelines: http://bit.ly/WP-IRC | Channel operator: Ask in #wikimedia-ops or say !ops followed by the request | For urgent admin help, say !admin followed by the request | No public logging | Cloak requests: http://bit.ly/IRCcloaks�'
�03[15:10] * Set by derp!~omg@bas7-montrealak-1128544932.dsl.bell.ca on Sun Oct 23 21:29:00
[15:10] #wikipedia-en url is http://en.wikipedia.org/
�12[15:10] -ChanServ- [#wikipedia-fr] Canal en UTF-8. La diffusion publique de journaux de ce canal est interdite. Merci de lire http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Canal_IRC et de contribuer à la bonne humeur du canal. Bonne journée !
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�08[15:19] <derp> Howdy Fluffernutter.
[15:20] <Qcoder00> Evening Fluffernutter
[15:22] <LauraHale> Morning Fluffernutter
�08[15:23] <derp> Afternoon, LauraHale <3
�06[15:23] * LauraHale needs to feel special
�06[15:23] * LauraHale pat pats derp
�08[15:23] * derp showers LauraHale with �8♥ �04♥ �13♥ �12♥ �11♥ �09♥ �08♥ �04♥ �13♥ �12♥ �11♥ �09♥ �08♥ �04♥ �13♥ �12♥�
[15:23] <LauraHale> I should like to go shopping with you at H&M, Gap and J Crew. Make it happen. :)
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�08[15:23] <derp> Zara too?
�08[15:24] <derp> LauraHale, the closet J Crew near me is in Toronto :P
[15:25] <LauraHale> derp: That is closer than here.
�08[15:25] <derp> no JCrew in Oz?
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�08[15:26] <derp> as the britsh people would say: Bollocks.
[15:26] <LauraHale> No, none.
�08[15:27] <derp> bollocks.
[15:27] <LauraHale> I think the nearest to me is honolulu
�08[15:28] <derp> awwwww
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[15:29] <LauraHale> Life is awesome. :)
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�08[15:30] * derp hugs LauraHale <3
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[15:36] <Steven_Zhang> Good morning.
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[15:38] <LauraHale> Morning Steven_Zhang
[15:39] <Steven_Zhang> I learned a lesson today.
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[15:39] <Steven_Zhang> If at first you don't succeed, keep trying until you do. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&curid=12936136&diff=457703369&oldid=457689517
[15:39] <Steven_Zhang> Ohai BewareofDoug
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[15:40] <BewareofDoug> Hey Steven_Zhang
[15:41] <Steven_Zhang> :-)
[15:41] <Steven_Zhang> Finally got my way :p
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�08[15:46] * derp hugs Steven_Zhang.
[15:47] <Steven_Zhang> Maryana: You around?
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[15:49] <Maryana> hey a steven_zhang… more or less: at a talk but sneaking in wp time :)
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[15:49] <Steven_Zhang> PM?
[15:49] <Klodde> Hi, I have a little question
[15:49] <Klodde> the sentence: But please, don't troll
[15:49] <Klodde> what does that mean?
[15:49] <Steven_Zhang> Klodde: Sure, what's up?
[15:50] <Klodde> an English sentence
[15:50] <Steven_Zhang> Er, where did you see that.
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[15:50] <Klodde> I don't understand what "don't troll" is
[15:50] <Klodde> when I look in a tranlation dictionary he doesn't find a verb troll
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[15:51] <Steven_Zhang> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/What_is_a_troll%3F
[15:51] <Steven_Zhang> That might help.
[15:51] <Klodde> thanks ;)
[15:53] <Klodde> I find in my own language now http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trol_(internet)
[15:53] <Klodde> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
[15:53] <Klodde> in english ;)
[15:53] <Klodde> and in dutch
[15:53] <Klodde> many thanks steven_zhang
[15:53] <Steven_Zhang> Welcome :)
�08[15:54] <derp> Mr Zhang or Mr Crossin?
[15:54] <Klodde> it's like annoying people or make them angry
[15:56] <Klodde> irritating people.
[15:56] <Klodde> ?
[15:56] <Steven_Zhang> Derp, definitely mr zhang
[15:57] <Steven_Zhang> Yeah
[15:57] <Steven_Zhang> Kinda.
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[16:04] <Peter-C> CRAP
[16:04] <Peter-C> SNOOKI WAS IN MY TOWN
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[16:04] <Peter-C> I feel all dirty now D:
[16:05] <Fluffernutter> ..
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[16:07] <OwlSecretary> Hai
�08[16:07] <Snooki> hai
[16:07] <OwlSecretary> OHai
[16:07] <OwlSecretary> :P
[16:07] <Peter-C> Fluffernutter - she was in the local bookshop
[16:07] <Peter-C> It was horrible
�08[16:07] <Snooki> Peter-C, was she promoting her book?
[16:07] <Peter-C> yes
�08[16:08] <Snooki> Tought so
�08[16:08] <Snooki> you know she didn't write it at all?
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[16:09] <Peter-C> Why am I not suprised
�08[16:09] <Snooki> She hired a ghost writer and supplied the background story and characters and the plot and she did the rest.
[16:09] <Peter-C> I am normally opposed to book burnings but I think we should make an exception for Snookie's book.
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�08[16:10] <Snooki> w00t
�08[16:10] <Snooki> a new massive vaccination campagin
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[16:26] <Ironholds> so, if anyone missed office hours but is interested in the article feedback tool
[16:26] <Ironholds> I'm going to be posting the logs in a bit so you can see what we discussed :). the new version is covered at [[WP:AFT5]], and if you have opinions, drop them on the talkpage.
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[16:30] <Jeske_Merensky> Could we get some admin eyes on REFUND?
[16:30] <Jeske_Merensky> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion&action=history
[16:30] <Jeske_Merensky> Shitload of IPs are spamming it up, and semi-protection's infeasible due to the risk of collateral.
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[16:31] <Rover456> Peter-C: isn't that violating the First Amendment?
[16:32] <Jeske_Merensky> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_undeletion#Silly_question has more info
[16:32] <Rover456> insofar as an amendment can be violated
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[16:37] <WilliamH_UK> Rover456, the first amendment does not apply on Wikipedia
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[16:38] <Rover456> WilliamH_UK: he wasn't talking about Wikipedia
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[16:39] <WilliamH_UK> oh wait no, i thought you had replied to jeske, not peter
[16:39] <Jeske_Merensky> Why would he?
[16:39] <Jeske_Merensky> I'm just asking for some admin eyes to step in and start dishing out short blocks to IPs spamming REFUND.
[16:40] <Ironholds> WilliamH_UK, what did you think of office hours?
[16:40] <WilliamH_UK> yeah sure jeske i'll take a look, don't think it will accomplish much though because the IPs are from everywhere
[16:40] <WilliamH_UK> Ironholds - i confess I don't think i paid much attention to it
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[16:41] <Jeske_Merensky> WilliamH_UK) They're all fans of the subject, who runs a podcast. There's three requests on REFUND for that page that have already been declined.
[16:42] <Ironholds> WilliamH_UK: that's fair enough :)
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[16:42] <WilliamH_UK> ah right
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[16:42] <WilliamH_UK> and did the subject issue his bidding to his fans by any chance :p
[16:43] <Steven_Zhang> Morning WilliamH_UK
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[16:43] <Gfoley4> Peter-C: Yo
[16:44] <WilliamH_UK> ahoy
[16:44] <Jeske_Merensky> I've no idea, but given the flak BWilkins got when he declined them I'm assuming they're doing it on his unspoken behalf or they are he.
[16:44] <Jeske_Merensky> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_undeletion#Silly_question has more info.
[16:45] <WilliamH_UK> christ, what a ton o' spam
[16:46] <WilliamH_UK> and just why is semi protection unacceptable?
[16:46] <Jeske_Merensky> WilliamH_UK) A lot of legitimate REFUND requests are from IPs.
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[16:47] <WilliamH_UK> muzemike already protected it once
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[16:48] <Jeske_Merensky> Bongwarrior did for 10 hours; it didn't help..
[16:48] <Jeske_Merensky> er, 14
[16:49] <CRRaysHead90> Note to self: PROOF READ DAMMIT!
�06[16:50] * CRRaysHead90 gives Jeske_Merensky a treat
�06[16:50] * Jeske_Merensky takes it
�06[16:52] * Demiurge1000 notices CRRaysHead90 now has three less fingers than he did before.
[16:52] <CRRaysHead90> GAH!
[16:52] <WilliamH_UK> I've semi'd it for 24 hours
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[16:53] <WilliamH_UK> that is exactly what semi protection was designed for
[16:53] <WilliamH_UK> blocking is not realistic
[16:53] <Jeske_Merensky> Nor is a semi.
[16:54] <WilliamH_UK> if you have another idea, i'm listening
[16:54] <Gfoley4> Edit filter?
[16:54] <Jeske_Merensky> Gfoley4) Look thru the history.
[16:54] <Jeske_Merensky> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion&curid=26803395&action=history
[16:55] <Gfoley4> An edit filter couldn't stop that...?
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[16:56] <Jeske_Merensky> That's not what I'm trying to suggest.
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[16:57] <Ironholds> StevenW: thanks again for the +v and looming ops presence :)
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�06[16:58] * BarkingFish lolz at reading stupid exam answers from british GCSE students :)
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[16:58] <BarkingFish> "Geography: Explain the placement of people throughout Scandinavia"
[16:58] <StevenW> Ironholds: NP.
[16:59] <BarkingFish> "Danish people come from Denmark, Swedes come from Sweden, Finns come from Finland, and Lapdancers come from Lapland"
[16:59] <Jeske_Merensky> Gfoley4) I see 2 variations used thus far: "Brian Reichle (Brian Redban)" and "Brian "Redban" Reichle".
[16:59] <Gfoley4> Ok
[17:00] <Gfoley4> I'm no regax expert but I'm sure it can be done
[17:00] <WilliamH_UK> they'll work around it
[17:00] <Hedgehog456> REGEX! REGEX, GFOLEY4! REGEX, NOT REGAX! REGEX!
�06[17:00] * Demiurge1000 blinks
[17:00] <WilliamH_UK> and the edit filter will not block them
[17:01] <Demiurge1000> Regax is a laxative, I assume.
[17:01] <SudoGhost> I'm no Regax expert either.
[17:01] <Gfoley4> WilliamH_UK: Blocking isnt really necessary
[17:01] <Gfoley4> They won't do it again
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[17:02] <WilliamH_UK> personally, i think the collateral is minimal
[17:02] <WilliamH_UK> that page concerns uncontroversial deletions, deletion of speedily deleted stuff
[17:03] <WilliamH_UK> only autoconfirmed users can create pages, so they will be able to edit that page anyway
[17:03] <Maryana> petan: thanks for volunteering to help w/archiving! :)
[17:04] <Jeske_Merensky> WilliamH_UK) No, the page is for requesting that deleted material be restored.
[17:04] <Jeske_Merensky> An IP can rightly suggest that.
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[17:05] <WilliamH_UK> you've missed the point
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[17:06] <Jeske_Merensky> WilliamH_UK) WHat was your point then?
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[17:08] <WilliamH_UK> wait nevermind, i thought only auto confirmed users could create pages
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[17:08] <LABcrab> Hello! Why is there no rating like G PG R and so forth for movies?
�06[17:08] * Hedgehog456 mutters 'dev intervention' under his breath
[17:08] <Hedgehog456> LABcrab: I thought there was?
�08[17:09] * derp snuggles with Hedgehog456.
[17:09] <LABcrab> Hedgehog456: Not in the infobox, afaik,
[17:09] <WilliamH_UK> there is in video games
[17:09] <WilliamH_UK> obvious example
[17:09] <WilliamH_UK> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto_%28video_game%29
�06[17:09] * Hedgehog456 snuggles with derp
[17:09] <WilliamH_UK> bear in mind that publishing censorship differs in countries
[17:09] <WilliamH_UK> "R" is not a rating in the UK
�08[17:10] <derp> WilliamH_UK, the french wikipedia allows IP's to create pages.
[17:10] <WilliamH_UK> ah
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[17:10] <Ironholds> enwiki is pretty much the only big wiki that doesn't.
[17:10] <Hedgehog456> derp: Eurozone debt crisis. Don't think that was caused by bankers.
[17:11] <Hedgehog456> It was caused by IPs creating pages.
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�08[17:11] <derp> i agree.
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[17:11] <Guest90860> Hi HedgeHog456
[17:11] <Hedgehog456> Hello Guest90860.
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[17:12] <Ironholds> WilliamH_UK, scrolling up
[17:12] <Ironholds> non-autoconfirmed users *can create pages*
[17:12] <Qcoder00> Hedgehog456: You said something about doing audio on Merseyside Local history?
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[17:12] <WilliamH_UK> yes I know
[17:12] <Ironholds> it goes IP addresses (cannot create pages or edit that page) users (can create pages, cannot edit that page) autoconfirmed users (can do both)
[17:12] <Qcoder00> But I had to go offline before we finsihed tlaking about that
[17:12] <LABcrab> WilliamH_UK: Ratings vary by country. R here is basically people need to be 18 or older.
[17:12] <Hedgehog456> My time here has become so ingrained in my instincts that I imagined a scathing reply from Ironholds to my earlier comment and prepared a counter-attack in a matter of seconds.
[17:12] <WilliamH_UK> LABcrab - that's exactly what I said
[17:12] <Hedgehog456> Qcoder00: almost finished the research
[17:13] <Qcoder00> :)
[17:13] <Ironholds> Hedgehog456: I'm turning over a new leaf and such
[17:13] <LABcrab> WilliamH_UK: Sorry, must have missed it.
[17:13] <LABcrab> But why don't movies have ratings while games do?
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[17:13] <Qcoder00> Movies do have ratings
[17:13] <Ironholds> indeed
[17:13] <Qcoder00> They just have different ones from games
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[17:14] <Demiurge1000> Hmm, so this means WMF covertly controls this channel. If there's a civility problem, they fix it by hiring the person responsible. Unusual, but effective.
[17:14] <Ironholds> they're talking about harmonising them across the UK
[17:14] <LABcrab> i mean, why doesn't Wikipedia list movie rating?
[17:14] <Ironholds> Demiurge1000: haha. I don't think that was their rationale
[17:14] <Qcoder00> LABcrab: I thought it did?
[17:14] <Ironholds> (it may have been, though)
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[17:14] <Ironholds> "32 hours a dollar to always know what he's doing and saying? SOLD"
[17:14] <Ironholds> dollars an hour
[17:14] <Ironholds> god my brain is dead
[17:14] <Qcoder00> However as Iornholds(?) said there are at least 60 different rating systems
[17:14] <WilliamH_UK> the WMF pays in TIME?
[17:14] <WilliamH_UK> wow
[17:14] <Ironholds> mind you, 32 hours per dollar is still better than nothing
[17:14] <Qcoder00> for filems
[17:14] <Demiurge1000> "keep your friends close, and your crazy caffeine-addled people closer"
[17:14] <Hedgehog456> Ironholds: then I must create a sock on this channel so my instincts don't end up driving me insane. ;)
[17:15] <LABcrab> For example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slumdog_Millionaire does not have it, Qcoder00.
[17:15] <WilliamH_UK> i would willing pay a dollar in exchange for 32 hours in a day
[17:15] <Ironholds> WilliamH_UK: that'd be funny if only I hadn't corrected myself before you'd replied ;)
[17:15] <Ironholds> Hedgehog456: hah!
[17:15] <Ironholds> Demiurge1000: I'm not caffeine-addled!
[17:15] <Ironholds> I was addled long before caffeine
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[17:15] <Qcoder00> LABCrab: My advice that the appropriate ratings to mention for a film are ... The original country of release Certificate, and The Region 1/2 DVD release certificate
[17:16] <Qcoder00> If an article doesn't have those, it might be worth adding them
[17:16] <LABcrab> Qcoder00: Why not have a dedicated section in the infobo?
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[17:16] <Qcoder00> That's something you'll have to take up with the authors of the infobox
[17:17] <LABcrab> Aww.
[17:17] <Qcoder00> Also , some films do get Re-Classified.
[17:17] <LABcrab> So do games, like the GTA example above (San Andreas?)
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[17:18] <Qcoder00> I mean WitchFinder General was originally 'banned' , then was released as an X, but was recently reclassified (uncut) as an 18
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[17:18] <Hurricanefan25> Snow! http://vortex.accuweather.com/adc2004/pub/includes/columns/newsstory/2011/400x266_10272050_nesnowmap.jpg
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[17:18] <Hurricanefan25> Uh, unrelated cheering
[17:18] <Qcoder00> Ironholds: Can you think of another film that's been re-classified often?
[17:19] <LABcrab> Qcoder00: Is that a movie?
[17:19] <Qcoder00> [[Witchfinder General]] is a film
[17:19] <Ironholds> Qcoder00: not really. Sorry, I just had two and a half-ish hours of office hours
[17:19] <Ironholds> I'm completely zonked, just doing work
[17:19] <LABcrab> Because most movies keep their rating. But QC/ON/USA ratings are greatly different.
[17:19] <Qcoder00> In fact [[Witchfinder General (film)]] has some noterity..
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[17:20] <Qcoder00> I tned to go by US / or UK (BBFC) ratings
[17:20] <LABcrab> Qcoder00: The US ratings are more conservative than Canada. What about UK?
[17:21] <Stelpa> could someone please fix this?
[17:21] <Stelpa> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_shop#Canada
[17:21] <Qcoder00> UK Ratings get rather complex
[17:21] <Stelpa> I don't know what to do in this sitaution
[17:21] <Stelpa> *situation
[17:21] <LABcrab> Stelpa: Not me. O.o
[17:21] <Stelpa> but that is totally an advert
[17:21] <Qcoder00> Because there are things that get a higher rating in the US , that don't here in the UK
[17:21] <Qcoder00> And vice versa
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[17:22] <LABcrab> Qcoder00: Precisely what happens in Canada. :/ Québec has like a 8+ rating, Ontario has 14+ and US has 18+,
[17:22] <Qcoder00> LABcrab: http://www.bbfc.co.uk/classification/guidelines/
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[17:22] <Qcoder00> Is what the UK BBFC seem to work to
[17:23] <LABcrab> Whoever said there is no R, well, i was referring to "R18", which is basically the same.
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[17:23] <WilliamH_UK> anyone speak french in here?
[17:23] <LABcrab> U is called G here.
[17:23] <Qcoder00> R18 in the UK is basicly used for softcore porno...
[17:23] <LABcrab> WilliamH_UK: Certainement.
[17:23] <WilliamH_UK> "Diplômé en 1930, est deux fois licencié des entreprises l'ayant engagé en raison de la situation économique."
[17:24] <WilliamH_UK> he graduated in 1930, something about 2 companies because of the financial situation?
[17:24] <LABcrab> But we don't have 12A/15 in Ontario. In Québec it's 8+/14+ if i'm not mistaken. Ontario is G/PG/14A/18A/R.
[17:25] <LABcrab> WilliamH_UK: The companies licensed him and hired him because of the economic situation.
[17:25] <Hurricanefan25> agsfhdbgnirhjthktymjluykmu
[17:25] <Hurricanefan25> Dumb kitten
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[17:25] <WilliamH_UK> LABcrab - cheers
[17:25] <Hurricanefan25> He loves the keyboard
[17:26] <Qcoder00> LABCrab: YOu also get the situation here in the UK that some films get a lesser certificate than you would think because of the context of the materila shown
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[17:26] <Ironholds> wb, mindspillage
[17:26] <Qcoder00> (Case in point are some B/W adaptations of Dickens)
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[17:26] <Hedgehog456> That's heritage though
[17:26] <Hedgehog456> You can't argue with heritage
[17:27] <Qcoder00> Yes, but there are sequences in 'Oliver Twsit' that might if in a modern fillm get a higher rating...
[17:27] <LABcrab> WilliamH_UK: No worries. Does it help you?
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[17:28] <Hurricanefan25> Nice. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Android_lawn_statues
[17:28] <WilliamH_UK> I think so
[17:28] <Hedgehog456> Qcoder00: Heritage.
[17:28] <WilliamH_UK> I guess now it's the context, thanks
[17:28] <LABcrab> No worries. It just seems like an odd sentence to pick out of the batch.
[17:28] <Trusilver> Hurricanefan25: ....
[17:29] <Hurricanefan25> .?
[17:29] <Hurricanefan25> ?
[17:29] <WilliamH_UK> no worries
[17:29] <Qcoder00> Speaking of which has anyone here seen any classic British Adaptations of Dickens?
[17:29] <Hedgehog456> Qcoder00: I seen the start of Great Expectations
[17:29] <Hedgehog456> it was weird
[17:29] <WilliamH_UK> BULLSEYE
[17:29] <Hedgehog456> the entire thing seemed like an LSD trip
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[17:29] <Hurricanefan25> Ditto
[17:29] <Hedgehog456> the old woman seemed perverted
[17:29] <WilliamH_UK> I confess I am rather enjoying Downton Abbey
[17:29] <WilliamH_UK> not oliver twist but still
[17:30] <Qcoder00> Hedgehog456: That's the David Lean adaptation correct?
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[17:30] <Hedgehog456> and the boxing boy was an insane weakling who collapsed as soon as the other boy touched him
[17:30] <LABcrab> What is Oliver Twist?
[17:30] <Hedgehog456> he also seemed quite promiscuous :s
[17:30] <LABcrab> And where is a bot in this chatroom that will read the article for me?
[17:30] <Hedgehog456> LABcrab: ...
[17:31] <LABcrab> !twist
[17:31] <Qcoder00> Hedgehog456: From the conversation LABCrab is French(?) Canadian...
[17:31] <LABcrab> No i never read Oliver Twist.
[17:31] <LABcrab> Qcoder00: When did he say that?
[17:31] <Qcoder00> LABCrab: Sorry
[17:32] <LABcrab> Qcoder00: Why sorry?
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[17:32] <Qcoder00> I thought you were Canadian...
[17:32] <Peter-C> Qcoder00 - I found Hedgehog456
[17:32] <Peter-C> :D
[17:32] <Qcoder00> Yes I know
[17:32] <LABcrab> Qcoder00: Well, for me to speak French and be familiar with NA ratings, hopefully. :) Only other place would be Louisiana.
[17:33] <LABcrab> Here are some facts for you: http://www.ocol-clo.gc.ca/html/quick_facts_faits_bref_franco_e.php
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[17:35] <Qcoder00> :)
[17:35] <Qcoder00> Anyway, I wouldn't expect a Canadian to have nessacrily read English novels...
[17:35] <Hedgehog456> British novels.
[17:35] <Qcoder00> .. just as I am not familiar with Canadian literatiure.
[17:36] <Hedgehog456> Nor am I.
[17:36] <Qcoder00> *literature
[17:36] <LABcrab> Qcoder00: Well, we read To Kill A Mockingbird. Not sure where that comes from.
[17:36] <WilliamH_UK> English
[17:36] <WilliamH_UK> Dickens was English
[17:36] <LABcrab> Oh never mind, my book is NA.
[17:36] <WilliamH_UK> Harper Lee was born in alabama
[17:36] <Qcoder00> LABCrab; To Kill a Mockingbird, is North American...
[17:36] <LABcrab> Where is the Wikibot? And there's no app for Wikipedia?
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[17:37] <Hedgehog456> WilliamH_UK: he was born after the Acts of Union and before the nationalist resurgence
[17:37] <Qcoder00> Well technicaly To Kill A Mockingbird is about the 'Southern' United States
[17:37] <Hedgehog456> hence, British
[17:37] <matthewrbowker> LABcrab: How do you mean?
[17:37] <Trusilver> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Android_lawn_statues <--- Is anyone seeing notability here that I'm not? Mentioned in only one CNET reference titled with an out of context reference to "Ozymandias" that the ref's author obviously found very witty.
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[17:37] <LABcrab> matthewrbowker: Because i have to go on the Wikipedia website instead of using an app.
[17:38] <WilliamH_UK> Hedgehog456 what do you mean
[17:38] <Qcoder00> Hedgehog456: I think of Dickens as English, RObert Burns is definitly Scots though
[17:38] <matthewrbowker> LABcrab: On a phone? Or here. Cuz you mentioned a bot...
[17:38] <Hedgehog456> Qcoder00: definitely. Doesn't mean that all the British can't embrace him though.
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[17:39] <Qcoder00> Hedgehog456: However inculding Scotland with in the definition of British gets problematic...
[17:39] <WilliamH_UK> Hedgehog456 I don't understand what you mean about Dickens not being English
[17:39] <WilliamH_UK> he was born in Portsmouth
[17:39] <Ironholds> tommorris, around?
[17:40] <Qcoder00> What about all the Irish writers? I mean between 1800 and 1922 , Irish wirters were technically writing in the UK
[17:40] <Ironholds> "English" is a worthless word post-1707 anyway
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[17:40] <WilliamH_UK> no it isn;t
[17:40] <Qcoder00> Oh a literay debate on this channel
[17:40] <Qcoder00> How predictable :)
[17:40] <Ironholds> England is not a legal entity, it has no distinct and definable culture, really. It's just a word.
[17:40] <WilliamH_UK> that's true
[17:40] <WilliamH_UK> but dickens was born in England
[17:40] <Hedgehog456> People in England see themselves as British.
[17:41] <Ironholds> WilliamH_UK: no, he was born in Portsmouth, UK
[17:41] <Ironholds> for it to be Portsmouth, England, England would have to be an actual thing
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[17:41] <WilliamH_UK> Ironholds I am aware that the UK is the name of the sovereign state
[17:41] <Hedgehog456> Amen to Ironholds.
[17:41] <WilliamH_UK> or are you suggesting that there is no such thing as England
[17:41] <Qcoder00> Hedgehog456: Yes will ti's better then seeing themselves as 'Opiniated xenophobic Daily Mail readers' XD
[17:41] <Qcoder00> *well it's
[17:41] <Ironholds> WilliamH_UK: hasn't been a relevant entity since the Statute of Rhuidan, hasn't been an actual entity since 1707
[17:42] <WilliamH_UK> that doesn't mean it's wrong to describe him as English
[17:42] <Ironholds> it's a word covering a region, a word with no official standing, a word that denotes no uniform culture
[17:42] <Hedgehog456> England is two lines on a map.
[17:42] <Ironholds> it's like describing Thomas Hardy as a north-easty-bit writer
[17:42] <LABcrab> matthewrbowker: For IRC there should be a bot. For Android there should be an app.
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[17:42] <WilliamH_UK> I look forward to reading your letter to FIFA and look forward to seeing Britain competing in the World Cup
[17:43] <matthewrbowker> LABcrab: We intentionally don't have a bot in here, it's too annoying. And Droid does have an app, or will soon. I know one is in development.
[17:43] <Qcoder00> WilliamH_UK: Some of the Socts might perfer to have a British rather than sperate Scots/English teams ... ;)
[17:43] <Qcoder00> *Scots
[17:43] <LABcrab> matthewrbowker: Are there any links?
[17:43] <WilliamH_UK> ohh i'm not sure about that
[17:43] <Qcoder00> They'd at least possibly get into the second round ;)
[17:43] <LABcrab> *leaks
[17:43] <matthewrbowker> LABcrab: Give me a sec, I'll look.
[17:44] <Qcoder00> (Sorry , sporting joke that might not be ubnderstood by the Non-uk crowd in here)
[17:44] <Ironholds> WilliamH_UK: the fact that a non-government organisation chooses to use a term for a specific team does not mean that the term holds general relevance
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[17:44] <Ironholds> I mean, DVD companies use regioning
[17:45] <Ironholds> it doesn't mean that "North America and the bobbly bits of South America and Central America" has any general relevance
[17:45] <Ironholds> Alberto Manguel is not a bobbly-bit-y writer
[17:45] <Ironholds> (although he is, pardon my language, a fucking genius)
[17:45] <WilliamH_UK> it's lucky for me that Charles Dickens is a non-government organisation too then
[17:45] <Ironholds> WilliamH_UK: Dickens specifically refers to himself as English?
[17:46] <Ironholds> you're missing my point. My point was "the fact that an NGO chooses to use a word does not give it general relevance"
[17:46] <matthewrbowker> LABcrab: You know what, I have a better place for you to ask. You can ask about development in #wikimedia-mobile . They know a lot more than I do.
[17:46] <Ironholds> coming back with "HAH, DICKENS WAS AN NGO" gets met with "...okay? and?"
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[17:47] <WilliamH_UK> but it's irrelevant
[17:47] <Ironholds> exactly. The term is irrelevant.
[17:47] <WilliamH_UK> no
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[17:47] <LABcrab> matthewrbowker: Fair enough.
[17:47] <WilliamH_UK> if I said the Falklands Islands belongs to England, well, obviously that'd be wrong
[17:47] <matthewrbowker> LABcrab: But I'm positive it's in development, I just asked.
[17:47] <Ironholds> on several levels
[17:47] <WilliamH_UK> yes
[17:48] <Qcoder00> WilliamH_UK: Erm...
[17:48] <Qcoder00> I thought technically the Falklands were a 'possesion'
[17:48] <Hedgehog456> They're a BOT
[17:49] <Hedgehog456> just what you wanted, LABcrab ;) jk
[17:49] <Qcoder00> British Overseas Territory
[17:49] <Ironholds> Qcoder00: of the crowns as a whole, yes
[17:49] <WilliamH_UK> well, whatever, I'm saying that I'm aware of the name of the state
[17:49] <Qcoder00> :)
[17:49] <Ironholds> I still love that due to historically idiosyncracies, the queen is male in the Baliwicks.
[17:50] <WilliamH_UK> It's not wrong to describe Dickens as English, but obviously if Dickens had a passport, I would expect it to read: Nationality: British
[17:50] <Qcoder00> Did passports exist in Dickens time?
[17:50] <Ironholds> and again, why not describe him as 42 Potts Street, Portsmouth-ian then?
[17:51] <Ironholds> Qcoder00: indeed
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[17:51] <WilliamH_UK> bit protracted, but no reason not to
[17:51] <Ironholds> WilliamH_UK: cool, lets shove that in the article ;p
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[17:51] <Ironholds> Qcoder00: standardisation started in 1855, iirc
[17:51] <Qcoder00> My understanding was that 'British Passports' were a phonemena of the early 20th century... (and alargey anti German sentiment)
[17:51] <Ironholds> ugh. so tired. I'm going to go shoot russians for a few minutes - back later
[17:51] <Qcoder00> * a largely
[17:52] <Ironholds> Qcoder00: sort of; they were updated and standardised fully due to the first world war, but the process started in 1855
[17:52] <Hedgehog456> Ironholds: the Cold War is over. ;)
[17:52] <Ironholds> Hedgehog456: but the new Call of Duty game is out in 11 days, so I'm honing my accuracy chops with the old versions
[17:52] <Qcoder00> Hedgehog456: You do know that a 'Russian' is also a type of cocktail?
[17:52] <WilliamH_UK> from the british passport article
[17:52] <WilliamH_UK> A passport issued on 18 June 1641 and signed by King Charles I still exists.
[17:52] <Ironholds> Qcoder00: oh god, I would love a white russian right now
[17:52] <Ironholds> wait, that sounds wrong. I meant the cocktail.
[17:53] <Qcoder00> 'Why not have both, Comrade?' XD
[17:53] <Hedgehog456> Qcoder00: yes, if you put it in the fridge then the Cold War starts again
[17:53] <Ironholds> interestingly, the development of passports? Entirely dependent on the development of patent law
[17:53] <Ironholds> anyway, I'm going to kill stuff and then fall over. Back in a bit.
[17:53] <Hedgehog456> If I could Like Qcoder00's comment there I would
[17:53] <Trusilver> I just wish I was capable of hearing "white russian" without wanting to watch "The Big Lebowski"
[17:54] <Hedgehog456> Trusilver: and you will never have that capability
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[17:55] <Qcoder00> Hedgehog456: ' I mean that reception, there werw White Russians, Black Russians... and that was only one of the delegations bar orders.." XD
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[17:56] <Qcoder00> Sorry, I'm in a funny mood at the moment... So please excuse my humor...
[17:56] <Hedgehog456> Aren't we all.
[17:56] <LABcrab> So what happened to the optional image filter project?
[17:56] <Qcoder00> LABcrab: It's still be worked on...
[17:57] <Qcoder00> It will be implemented on enwiki ,' when the power of Christ himself compels the unreightous to see the extent of thier sin , and repent in the glory of our lord...' etc,etc ....
[17:58] <Qcoder00> XD
[17:58] <Maid> I feel myself unable to say something because it would be highly insenstive to Christains.
[17:59] <Qcoder00> Maid: I was making a joke..
[17:59] <Maid> I was going to as well.
[17:59] <Maid> :P
[17:59] <Qcoder00> I don't think given the views of people on enwikie the image filter will get implemented any time soon
[17:59] <Qcoder00> Maid: Unusal choice of nick?
[18:00] <Maid> Not to unusual.
[18:00] <matthewrbowker> Maid: Care to tell us how you acquired that nick? Is there a story?
[18:00] <Qcoder00> Are you male, female or some kind of indeterminate social cyberspace construct?
[18:00] <Maid> Male
[18:00] <Maid> I'm an admin on a wiki, and I keep it clean.
[18:00] <Qcoder00> Do you get a 'frilly apron'?
[18:00] <Maid> Well, I help keep it clean.
[18:01] <Maid> Ofc, Wikipe-tan gave me one of hers.
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[18:02] <Maid> matthewrbowker, I acquired the nick by /nicking to it and then /ns grouping it
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[18:02] <matthewrbowker> Maid: Whoa!
[18:02] <Qcoder00_> What did I miss?
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[18:02] <Maid> I know! :O
[18:02] <Qcoder00_> My connection died
[18:03] <Maid> What was the last thing you got?
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�06[18:03] * matthewrbowker sees potential for a GA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bert_Bell
[18:03] <Qcoder00> "> Sorry but having a nick like 'maid' and being male , brings to mind certain images ;0" was the last thing I saw
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[18:03] <Maid> I never saw that :O
[18:04] <Qcoder00> Oh
�06[18:04] * matthewrbowker has never seen that message.
[18:04] <Qcoder00> Anyway , there is a known sub-culture of male sissy maids....
[18:04] <matthewrbowker> O.O
[18:04] <Maid> Did you see my comment about Wikipe-te?
[18:04] <Maid> O.o
[18:04] <Qcoder00> Maid: no
[18:04] <Qcoder00> I didn't
[18:04] <Maid> Oh
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[18:05] <Qcoder00> What was the comment?
[18:05] <Trusilver> Maid: Because that CERTAINLY helps the "male sissy maid" image, imagining a guy dressed in Wikipe-tan's outfit...
[18:05] <Maid> lol
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[18:05] <Maid> Maid sounded better than butler
[18:05] <Maid> And he asked so I gave him an answer he asked for.
[18:06] <Qcoder00> Maid: XD
[18:06] <Qcoder00> Oh
[18:06] <Qcoder00> :(
[18:06] <Qcoder00> Sorry
[18:07] <Maid> lol, doesn't bother me a bit. :P
�06[18:07] * Qcoder00 take his medication...
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�06[18:07] * Qcoder00 tries to remember what the 'friendly' doctor told him....
[18:08] <Maid> Is there such a thing?
[18:08] <Qcoder00> As 'friendly' doctors...?
�06[18:08] * Qcoder00 notes that if I have to explain every joke , they cease to be funny
[18:09] <Olipro> I would question whether they ever were
�06[18:09] * Maid decides to go back to idling here since chatting doesn't seem to suit me
[18:09] <Qcoder00> Maid: Sorry
�03[18:09] * Barras is now known as [[God]]
[18:09] <Maid> Don't be sorry, you did nothing wrong.
[18:10] <Qcoder00> Maid: You said chatting doesn't suit you? What would, Pink satin, PVC or latex ? XD
�06[18:10] * matthewrbowker bows to [[God]]
�03[18:10] * Maid is now known as Ty
[18:10] <Ty> Ya Maid, what Qcoder00 said.
[18:10] <Qcoder00> (Sorry sorry... me has a whole host of TV inspired jokes)
[18:10] <Ty> Hmm, they must of left.
[18:12] <Ty> I just queried yw to see if he'd reply to my ty
[18:13] <Qcoder00> BTW I assume people know what a 'friendly' doctor is ;)
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[18:14] <Ty> To me it means a psychologist. o.o'''
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[18:16] <matthewrbowker> Qcoder00: You mean the one that does the *full* physical?
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[18:18] <Qcoder00> I must have a ZX81 for a router or something
[18:18] <Qcoder00> My connection is well 'bouncy'
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[18:27] <BarkingFish> Qcoder00, you're suffering what we call "Sinclair snot." - You sneeze and your connection dies instead of you.
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[18:28] <Qcoder00> http://incompetech.com/gallimaufry/luckytutorial.html - This guys comments on scammer had me giggling
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[18:34] <Qcoder00> \query barkingFish
[18:34] <Qcoder00> Arghh
[18:34] <Qcoder00> |query BarkingFIsh
[18:34] <Qcoder00> \queryBarkingFish
[18:34] <Qcoder00> Sorry
[18:34] <Qcoder00> :(
�06[18:35] * Qcoder00 shakes out his keyboard
�06[18:36] * matthewrbowker slaps Qcoder00's computer.
[18:36] <matthewrbowker> Cooperate
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�06[18:50] * Peter-C feeds Qcoder00 his math homework
[18:50] <Peter-C> compute
[18:51] <Qcoder00> Peter-C: ? NO ARGUMENTS
[18:51] <Qcoder00> Peter-C: What are you having problems with on your maths homewark anyway?
�06[18:52] * matthewrbowker watches Qcoder00 throw an error
[18:53] <Qcoder00> matthewrbowker: Throwing errors is fine, it's when the computer starts throing punhed tape at you that you need to worry !!
[18:53] <Qcoder00> XD
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[18:53] <Qcoder00> (or disk)
[18:53] <matthewrbowker> Qcoder00: Agreed XD
�06[18:53] * matthewrbowker ducks
[18:54] <Qcoder00> Sadly the joke only works with peoplr that can recall early computer systems
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[18:55] <Ironholds> alright, I need zuzzes. Night all
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[18:56] <WilliamH_UK> fantastic British comedy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_xfKuDZd98
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[18:59] <tommorris> one thing wikipedia has taught me: handle right-to-left text issues. heh.
[18:59] <tommorris> spend half an hour building proper RTL support into open source project and another continent can use your app ;-)
[19:01] <Theo10011> aww swalling left stewards channel.
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[19:02] <WilliamH_UK> tommorris - cunning
[19:03] <Peter-C> Qcoder00 - It was boring ratio junk
[19:03] <Peter-C> easy but annoying
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[19:03] <Qcoder00> Peter-C: ??
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�06[19:06] * SigmaWP says hello to the puny fleshlings
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�06[19:08] * matthewrbowker waves to SigmaWP in a puny way.
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[19:18] <Lubaf> "Dude, I wanna take you to a cop bar..." "I've got something to put on your / At the cop bar cop bar cop bar / WAAOOW!"
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[19:21] <Seddon> :( Where is my ironbaby :(
[19:22] <SteveWork> SEDDON :D
�06[19:22] * SteveWork facehuggles Seddon
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�06[19:26] * Seddon wipes face clean
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[19:26] <SteveWork> Seddon: clean?
[19:26] <SteveWork> facehugs are not messy :P
[19:27] <Seddon> you are :P
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[19:32] <Pilif12p> very clever, Kensington
[19:32] <Pilif12p> make your expensive charger viewable, but the rest get a "site error"
[19:33] <SigmaWP> Admins here?
�06[19:33] * SigmaWP prods gfol
[19:33] <SigmaWP> Where'd he go
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[19:42] <WilliamH_UK> what's that tool which counts how many edits each editor has made to a particular page?
[19:42] <WilliamH_UK> should have bookmarked the link
[19:43] <TParis> Look on the history page
[19:43] <TParis> It's called "Contributors"
[19:43] <TParis> It's a blue link at the top
[19:43] <SigmaWP> What's the tool that shows how many articles someone created?
[19:43] <SigmaWP> The Special: page, not X!'s tool
[19:44] <WilliamH_UK> ahhh yes
[19:44] <WilliamH_UK> cheers TParis
�06[19:44] * SigmaWP prods TParis and forces him to open a window
[19:45] <TParis> I dunno any Special: page that does that, I only know of X's tool
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[19:46] <WilliamH_UK> no me neither
[19:46] <SigmaWP> Hm, I suppose I could use Special:Nuke...
[19:47] <Pilif12p> SigmaWP: not unless you're an admin...
�06[19:47] * SigmaWP wishes Special:Nuke was like page protection
[19:47] <SigmaWP> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tendarba&action=protect
[19:47] <SigmaWP> You can see the options, they're all gray.
[19:47] <SigmaWP> Now, if nukes were like that...
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[19:54] <Seddon> I just love scanning for life forms
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[19:55] <Seddon> Lifeforms..... *bee bee bee bee beep* You tiny little life-forms..... *bee bee bee bee beep*
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�06[19:57] * SigmaWP waves to Ironholds
�06[19:57] * SigmaWP waves to mattbuck
[19:57] <Trusilver> wb Ironholds
[19:58] <WilliamH_UK> hello
[19:59] <Ironholds> hey, SigmaWP, Trusilver
�06[19:59] * Ironholds cannot sleep
�03[19:59] * FAdmArcher|away is now known as DeltaQuad
[19:59] <Demiurge1000> Clown will eat you?
[20:00] <SigmaWP> Ah, yes, that user
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[20:01] <Ks0stm> XD My day was just made by the fact Charlie Brown is on TV.
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[20:02] <SigmaWP> Isn't he always?
[20:03] <Kingpin13> SigmaWP, I never replied to your memo.
[20:03] <SigmaWP> I know...
[20:03] <SigmaWP> Why tell me?
[20:03] <Kingpin13> I'm not entirely sure why, but the bot was getting a lot of 404s
[20:04] <Trusilver> Ironholds: Why the insomnia? I haven't slept in 38 hours, and I'm holding on for another 4 so I can go to sleep and get exactly 8 hours before needing to get up for work.
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[20:04] <Kingpin13> normally it knows to just wait and persevere when it gets them
[20:04] <Kingpin13> But it was getting them for the namespaces config page, which was wrapped into the rest of program slightly awkwardly.
[20:04] <Ironholds> Trusilver: I'm a Londoner talking to east-coast americans working for a west-coast company
[20:04] <Ks0stm> SigmaWP: Nah, only the holiday specials.
[20:05] <Ironholds> my sleep schedule is "if I'm in bed before 3am something is seriously wrong with me"
[20:05] <Ks0stm> SigmaWP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_the_Great_Pumpkin,_Charlie_Brown
[20:05] <Seddon> at last my Ironholds :)
[20:05] <Kingpin13> So I've re-written it, and it now works that the same way as the rest of them, which deals with that problem
[20:05] <SigmaWP> Ah
[20:05] <SigmaWP> :D
[20:05] <SigmaWP> Everything shall triumph over 1.18!
[20:05] <Seddon> I wouldnt be able to cope in life without my daily does of deprecating wit :)
[20:06] <SigmaWP> Thanks
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[20:06] <Ironholds> Seddon my Seddon
[20:06] <Ironholds> how goes?
�06[20:07] * Jammin dances
[20:07] <Trusilver> Ah... that definitely makes sense. I have to schedule sleep for myself on my work stretches. I look for blocks of 8 hours that I won't be disturbed and sleep then. I can't sleep less or more than that.
[20:07] <Seddon> Ironholds: I am very very tired
[20:07] <Jammin> I am fucking rich :-D
[20:07] <Ironholds> Seddon: that would be because it's 1am, you thick poof.
[20:07] <Kingpin13> SigmaWP, or did you want to know why I didn't reply to the memo? ;)
[20:07] <Ironholds> Trusilver: eep
[20:07] <Jammin> Ironholds: ... I call my friend poof.
[20:07] <SigmaWP> It doesn't really matter to me :P
[20:07] <Ironholds> Trusilver: actually, the best bit was yesterday; I worked for 16 hours, slept for two, woke up and started working again
[20:08] <Kingpin13> Heh, I just figured I'd see you online at some point -shrug-
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[20:08] <Ironholds> and I'm emailing away, and my boss comes back with "shouldn't you be asleep?"
[20:08] <Ironholds> "naw, I got two hours"
[20:08] <Ironholds> "oh. And you can't sleep?"
[20:08] <Ironholds> "nope"
[20:08] <Seddon> Ironholds: It might also have something to do with the fact that I have been up since 9 oclock with only 4 hours sleep last night and only four the night before as well
[20:08] <Ironholds> "well, try not to do too many two hour nights. Try to get five hours."
[20:08] <Ironholds> Seddon: two hours. I win! Why the insomnia
[20:08] <Trusilver> I was able to do that in my 20s, but in my 40s I need a good night's sleep t stay alert.
[20:09] <Seddon> Ironholds: deadline today
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[20:09] <Jammin> Trusilver: :O you're an old fucker
[20:09] <Trusilver> Damn right. Get off my lawn.
[20:09] <Jammin> Damn kids...
[20:10] <Ironholds> Seddon: ooh, on?
[20:10] <Ironholds> Trusilver: the guy telling me this was in his 40s, I think. I was like "you live on FIVE HOURS A NIGHT AT MOST? How are you as good at this as you are?!
[20:10] <Jammin> Ironholds: Any tricks on dealing with insomnia?
[20:10] <Ironholds> Jammin: get a loved one to repeatedly hit you in the face with a brick
[20:10] <Ironholds> works perfectly
[20:10] <Jammin> I don't have a brick :-(
[20:11] <Jammin> or a loved one
[20:11] <Trusilver> Ironholds: hah! I can stay up for 48 hours without a problem, but at the end I NEED a good night's sleep. I can't do little naps here and there.
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[20:11] <Ironholds> Trusilver: I like my beauty sleep
[20:11] <Jammin> My sleep schedule is fucked u
[20:11] <Jammin> up
[20:11] <matthewrbowker> Jammin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OYOmZp5HeU In response to earlier.
[20:12] <Jammin> I wake up at 6:30 for school
[20:12] <Ironholds> If I get less than 10 hours a night I feel cheated. Herself expressed shock at this quote "whimpiness"
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[20:12] <Jammin> come home at 4:00~ and go to sleep
[20:12] <Jammin> wake up at 5:00PM, go to bed at 3:00AM
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[20:27] <Ironholds> The survey is now at 982 responses
[20:27] <Ironholds> scaary
[20:28] <Betacommand> anyone see a member of ArbCom online?
[20:28] <Seddon> I want to be a part of a survey :(
[20:28] <Trusilver> Crap... I haven't done that survey yet...
[20:28] <Trusilver> I will do it tonight.
[20:28] <Ironholds> Seddon: are you a new page patroller?
[20:28] <Seddon> Ironholds: No
[20:29] <Jammin> Betacommand: TheCavalry might be online on twitter...
�06[20:29] * Jammin checks
[20:29] <Ironholds> Seddon: then you don't get a survey
[20:29] <Ironholds> Betacommand: hang on, I'll check admins
[20:30] <Jammin> Betacommand: Oh um... WilliamH is online
[20:30] <WilliamH_UK> i am
[20:30] <Betacommand> Jammin: not a member of arbcom
[20:30] <Jammin> what???
[20:30] <Ironholds> Betacommand: the one arbcom member online doesn't discuss official business over IRC
[20:30] <Betacommand> Ironholds: which is who?
[20:31] <SteveWork> risker.
[20:31] <SteveWork> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endmark AFD?
[20:31] <SteveWork> its not a G11...
[20:32] <mikaey> That could be an A7
[20:32] <mikaey> Their only sources are their own website
[20:32] <SteveWork> Yeah, but its been around for years.
[20:32] <SteveWork> dec 09
[20:32] <mikaey> So?
[20:32] <SigmaWP> ^
[20:32] <TParis> Wouldnt work "worldwide" part disqualify it?
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[20:33] <TParis> Isnt part of [[WP:CORP]] the international part?
[20:33] <TParis> nvm, thats just for non-commercial organizations
[20:34] <mikaey> Just cause everyone missed it and we forgot about it doesn't mean it doesn't still qualify for CSD
[20:34] <SigmaWP> ^
[20:35] <Jammin> SigmaWP: stop. if you don't have anything to say don't be an echo.
[20:35] <SigmaWP> ^
[20:35] <mikaey> Jammin: What's wrong with showing support?
[20:35] <SigmaWP> ^
[20:35] <SigmaWP> Now I'm just doing this because of the beans. :D
[20:35] <SteveWork> sent to AFD
[20:35] <Jeske_Merensky> </AOL>
[20:36] <Jammin> mikaey: Nothing. Just how he's showing it.
[20:36] <SigmaWP> See above.
[20:36] <mikaey> Jammin: Would you rather he use a goatse?
[20:36] <SigmaWP> Jammin: Sheessh
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[20:37] <Jammin> mikaey: uhh.. are you referring to goatse.cx ?
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[20:38] <mikaey> Jammin: Or whatever mirror copy of it happens to be available...I'm pretty sure there's an ASCII art version of it
[20:39] <Jammin> http://www.goatse.cx/ lol love the mail logo
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[20:44] <AzaToth> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/10/five-year-old-wikipedia-fork-is-dead-in-the-water.ars
[20:45] <Ironholds> AzaToth: ArsTechnica: five years behind the news.
[20:45] <AzaToth> "At its peak in 2009, Citizendium boasted almost 30 new articles per day. Today, the rate has fallen to around 2 articles per day."
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[20:48] <Ironholds> AzaToth: they're doing almost as badly as us (boom)
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[20:48] <AzaToth> hehe
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[20:50] <Demiurge1000> NPP on Citizendium must be a big task.
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[20:51] <AzaToth> hehe
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[20:51] <AzaToth> I assume they have expert NPPers
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[20:52] <matthewrbowker> I also like how they're begging for more money on their home page...
[20:52] <matthewrbowker> Not "asking", "begging"
[20:52] <WilliamH_UK> I agree with one of the points though
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[20:52] <Demiurge1000> The faintly amusing thing is that all the people on WP who complain about being bossed around by admins while "trying to write content"... wouldn't qualify to be "editors" on Citizendium, so they'd get bossed around ten times as much. Although by rather fewer people.
[20:53] <WilliamH_UK> editors experienced in a topic/experts constantly having to defend their good material from the completely inept wanting to mash it up
[20:53] <Maryana> anybody want to take a look at the portuguese huggle config page for me and tell me what i'm doing wrong?
[20:53] <SigmaWP> mikaey: Derp has an ASCII of goatse
[20:53] <mikaey> hehe
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[20:56] <SigmaWP> mikaey: Xe put it on Conservapedia :D
[20:57] <Maryana> also, ascii of goatse is nothing. there exists, deep in the revision history of en.wiki, a table, each cell of which is one pixel of goatse
[20:57] <Maryana> true story.
[20:58] <SigmaWP> Maryana: Exactly what derp has
[20:58] <SigmaWP> almost
[20:58] <Maryana> no no, this is in full color!
[20:58] <Maryana> not ascii
[20:58] <SigmaWP> Yes
[20:58] <SigmaWP> In color
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[20:58] <SigmaWP> that's why it went on conservapedia :P
[20:58] <Maryana> haha
[20:58] <Maryana> strong support
[20:59] <Maryana> so anyway, portuguese huggle config...
[21:00] <SigmaWP> http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/Inertcourse
[21:00] <Maryana> waiiit a second, derp, are you aaron?
[21:00] <SigmaWP> LOL
[21:00] <SigmaWP> they're not rollbacking XD
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[21:08] <SigmaWP> http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=User%3AAznBurger&type=block
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[21:24] <CRRaysHead90> wtf?
[21:24] <SteveWork> What?
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[21:24] <Peter-C> I love writing horrible things about my freinds new romance!
[21:24] <Peter-C> What great times!
[21:25] <SigmaWP> Maryana: http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Juan_de_la_Cosa&oldid=913013&action=edit
[21:25] <SigmaWP> That's derp's Gr.awp style goatse vandalism :D
[21:26] <Maryana> i am on the clock and therefore i disapprove
[21:26] <Maryana> vociferously
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[21:26] <SteveWork> Maryana is bacl
[21:27] <Maryana> i'm always here. mostly.
[21:28] <Maryana> except when i'm not.
[21:28] <Ironholds> Maryana: a perfectly true statement
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[21:37] <SigmaWP> derpyfoo: :D
[21:37] <derpyfoo> SigmaWP: P:D
[21:38] <derpyfoo> SigmaWP:
[21:38] <derpyfoo> for yoiu
[21:38] <derpyfoo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zxnvhIig2M
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[21:38] <derpyfoo> do it
[21:38] <derpyfoo> it's so stupd
[21:38] <derpyfoo> ghots dancing
[21:38] <derpyfoo> goths
[21:39] <SigmaWP> That looks....
[21:39] <SigmaWP> disturbing
[21:40] <derpyfoo> Highly
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[21:45] <derpyfoo> Who's in PA
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�06[21:46] * Peter-C derps derp
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[21:48] <Peter-C> No herpes pls
[21:48] <Peter-C> kk?
[21:49] <SigmaWP> Hm
[21:49] <SigmaWP> I wonder which articles from WP were originally from Nupedia
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[21:53] <Peter-C> SigmaWP - there should be a template for that
[21:53] <Peter-C> (should as in someone should create it)
[21:53] <SigmaWP> {{Nupedia approved}}
[21:54] <SigmaWP> This article was originally from Nupedia. As such, the first revision is infinitely accurate, with this Seal of Approval"
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[21:55] <SigmaWP> hi.. bye
[21:56] <Trusilver> Am I the only one that neither reads not could give a damn about the "other" wikis?
[21:56] <SigmaWP> What "other" wikis?
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[21:57] <Trusilver> conservepedia, Uncyclopedia, IgotbannedfromwikiSoI'mMakingMyOwnpedia...
[21:57] <SigmaWP> Haha
[21:57] <SigmaWP> Wanna help me nuke conservapedia?
[21:57] <Trusilver> Good God no! They might come over here.
[21:58] <WilliamH_UK> guys this is not the place to discuss that
[22:00] <Trusilver> Other wikis are light the containment grid in Ghostbusters. They keep people we don't want on Wikipedia occupied in a better place.
[22:01] <Trusilver> *like
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[22:10] <Jeske_Merensky> Is Conservapedia really in that bad a shape?
[22:10] <SigmaWP> [[Atheism and obesity]]
[22:10] <SigmaWP> Enough said.
[22:10] <SteveWork> lol
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[22:11] <Pilif12p> SigmaWP: we need to talk.
[22:11] <SigmaWP> Speaking.
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[22:12] <CRRaysHead90> SCORE UPDATE: Texas Rangers 4, St. Louis Cardinals 3, Bot 6th 1 Out (TEX leads World Series 3-2)
[22:12] <Wizardman> wtf? not sure why i was redirected here, heh
�06[22:12] * Monty845 can't wait for the series to end and for normal tv programing to return
[22:12] <Monty845> Wizardman, where were you trying to get to?
[22:13] <Wizardman> en-admins. says i can't which is odd
[22:13] <Monty845> its admins only afaik
[22:14] <Trusilver> um... wizardman has been an admin for a loooooong time.
[22:14] <Wizardman> yup. and i've been an admin and part of the channel for about 5 years, hence my confusion
[22:14] <Monty845> hehe that would be confusing!
[22:14] <Ironholds> Wizardman: your hostmask isn't on :P
[22:14] <Ironholds> that could be it
[22:14] <Trusilver> Go protect a page and make sure nobody took your bit away while you were asleep.
[22:14] <Wizardman> sonofa, how'd it disappear?
[22:15] <Wizardman> that would be it. gotta figure out how to put it back on
[22:15] <SteveWork> Hey Wizardman :)
[22:15] <Monty845> did you authenticate to nickserv?
[22:15] <Ironholds> Wizardman: /ns identify password
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[22:16] <Wizardman> XD it always used to do that automatically. guess it doesn't now
[22:16] <Wizardman> that solves it lol
[22:18] <Wizardman> now to watch beisbol
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[22:19] <Wizardman> wow
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[22:21] <SteveWork> hello Stelpa
[22:21] <SteveWork> :P
[22:22] <Stelpa> SteveWork: >:c
[22:22] <Stelpa> ...
[22:22] <Stelpa> :p
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[22:22] <SteveWork> hello there my often pinged friend :P
[22:23] <Wizardman> evenin.
[22:23] <WilliamH_UK> hi Wizardman
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[22:23] <CRRaysHead90> any World Series watchers in here besides Wizardman?
[22:23] <Wizardman> hello
[22:23] <SteveWork> wizzardman
[22:23] <SteveWork> :-)
[22:24] <SteveWork> Are you an arb still?
[22:24] <CRRaysHead90> bases loaded 1 out for the Cardinals in the 6th
[22:24] <Wizardman> haven't been one in forever
[22:25] <CRRaysHead90> Alexi Ogando coming in for the Rangers
�06[22:25] * CRRaysHead90 slaps himself for doing play-by-play
[22:26] <CRRaysHead90> World Series talk this way --> ##Christianrocker90-trivia
[22:27] <Wizardman> Colby's hoping Ogando can get him out of this #worldseries #goteam
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[22:28] <CRRaysHead90> don't walk in the tying run plz, Ogando, I want my pre-World Series prediction to come true (Rangers in 6)
[22:29] <CRRaysHead90> damn
[22:29] <Wizardman> shit just got real
[22:29] <CRRaysHead90> Here's hoping Hamilton picks up his team
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[22:30] <CRRaysHead90> OH! Picked off! HAHAHA!
[22:30] <Wizardman> wow
[22:31] <Wizardman> great throw, but why was Holliday down that far?
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[22:31] <CRRaysHead90> He blocked the bag with his foot
[22:32] <CRRaysHead90> Damn, Napoli's got a cannon in that arm
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[22:32] <WilliamH_UK> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:64.71.150.37
[22:32] <WilliamH_UK> really clever IP address there
[22:32] <WilliamH_UK> apparently faking comments from an admin is going to make me want to unblock them?
[22:33] <CRRaysHead90> Wizardman: no one wants to hold on to the lead tonight
[22:33] <Wizardman> doesn'tlook like it. lot of back and forth, but not the kind i would have expected
[22:34] <Wizardman> the pitching was good for most of the series but sheesh.
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[22:34] <Wizardman> lucky it's only 4-4
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[22:35] <CRRaysHead90> Someone [[WP:TROUT]] Ogando
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[22:35] <Trusilver> WilliamH_UK: that's really odd... did he think that someone was going to say "Oh! I see that another admin agreed to unblock you! let me take care of that for you!"
[22:36] <Monty845> I think its pretty creative actually...
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[22:36] <WilliamH_UK> i was going to have a word with the admin in question for undoing a CU block, but then thought something wasnt quite right
[22:36] <WilliamH_UK> checked the history and whatdya know
[22:36] <Wizardman> i saw something like that last month
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[22:37] <Wizardman> i knew something was up since I nom'd the admin back in 08 and knew he hadn't edited since 09 XD
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[22:37] <CRRaysHead90> Wizardman: The theme song of this game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg
[22:37] <WilliamH_UK> heh
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[22:39] <Wizardman> lol. inning over, for now. wow this game has been slow
[22:39] <Wizardman> gives me time to do GA reviews between pitches though :P
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[22:41] <Wizardman> uh oh
[22:41] <Wizardman> Allen Craig's in, something will happen there soon
[22:42] <CRRaysHead90> GONE BABY!
[22:43] <Mitchazenia> :|
[22:43] <Wizardman> Cards will probly tie it again in the 8th to keep it interesting
[22:43] <Mitchazenia> I won't watch till Bottom 8th
[22:44] <Wizardman> wow, now THAT was a shot
[22:44] <CRRaysHead90> THAT �ONE'S GONE!
[22:44] <Mitchazenia> :|
[22:45] <CRRaysHead90> My prediction is looking pretty good at the moment
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[22:45] <Mitchazenia> My prediction is that the Rangers cheated
[22:45] <Mitchazenia> :P
[22:45] <CRRaysHead90> For the record, I want the Cards to win because I'm bitter about the Rangers beating my Rays, on the other hand I want the Rangers to win so my prediction comes true.
[22:46] <Mitchazenia> I want the Cards to win since the Tigers beat my Yanks
[22:46] <Wizardman> I want the Rangers to win just so they have something. The Cards have enough titles.
[22:46] <CRRaysHead90> They still need 16 to catch the Yankees
[22:47] <Wizardman> lol yankees
[22:47] <Wizardman> well there's a way to make sure no more homers. keep throwing the ball in the dirt
[22:48] <CRRaysHead90> I sometimes wonder what if the Rays had been born when the Yankees were and had the 27 titles instead of the Yankees. What would the baseball world think?
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[22:48] <Wizardman> they'd probably be the ones with the big payroll then, so probably same as how we see the yanks
[22:49] <CRRaysHead90> essentially what I wonder is what if the Yankees and Rays team histories were switched
[22:50] <Jeske_Merensky> Rangers won last year
[22:50] <Mitchazenia> Giants did
[22:50] <CRRaysHead90> Giants won last year
[22:50] <Mitchazenia> Beat the Rangers 4 games to 1
[22:50] <Jeske_Merensky> Damn
[22:50] <Jeske_Merensky> Shows how much I follow baseball.
[22:50] <Wizardman> hm
[22:51] <CRRaysHead90> *sings* Written in the stars, a million miles away ...
[22:53] <Mitchazenia> I think we need to just murder 90% of the Cardinals now
[22:54] <CRRaysHead90> Wizardman: $10 (monopoly money) says Kinsler goes deep
[22:55] <Wizardman> deal
[22:56] <Mitchazenia> 7-4
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[22:56] <Wizardman> yay. i can use it to pay off the fa people :P
[22:57] <Wizardman> actually i'm probably done with articles for a while, spending november tackling CCI
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[22:59] <CRRaysHead90> I'm going to bed when this game is over
[22:59] <CRRaysHead90> Time for "God Bless America"
[22:59] <Wizardman> ok, goodnight in two hours. :)
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[23:00] <CRRaysHead90> An R&B voice, nice
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[23:05] <Jeske_Merensky> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:P6hues - Batshit, or...?
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