User:Badmachine/wikipedia-en-2013-05-05
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Jump to navigationJump to search--- Log opened Sun May 05 00:00:05 2013 --- Day changed Sun May 05 2013 00:00 < addihockey10> But it's a nice car. 00:00 -!- YE [~chatzilla@ip70-180-214-180.lv.lv.cox.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0.1/20130409194949]] 00:00 -!- Bazinga [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Addihockey10] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:03 * kelapstick is here 00:04 * kelapstick just wrote a new article 00:08 -!- southpark [~chatzilla@e179047232.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:09 -!- FastLizard4 is now known as FastLizard4|zZzZ 00:10 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@pool-71-183-181-56.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:11 -!- Titoxd [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:13 -!- Patar_knight [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Patar-knight] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:15 -!- southpark [~chatzilla@e179047232.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:18 -!- Hahc21 [~Hahc21@wikipedia/Hahc21] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:21 -!- Elduen [~elduen@unaffiliated/andorin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:27 < dtm> kelapstick: well done. what is it? 00:33 -!- Jasper_Deng is now known as Jasper_Deng_away 00:33 -!- Ktr101 [48134c35@wikipedia/Ktr101] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:34 < mareklug> addihockey10 http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/05/04/editorial-apples-ios-is-the-new-windows particulalry look at the profit graphs 00:35 < mareklug> dtm we won't know if it is indeed well done, until he shows it to us. it could be medium only, or rare. 00:36 < addihockey10> Mareglug send to haggis 00:38 < mareklug> what do you mean, it is not logged on. 00:38 < addihockey10> Uhoh 00:40 -!- lahwran [~lahwran@python/site-packages/lahwran] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:41 < kelapstick> dtm, Jinfeng Gold Mine 00:43 -!- addihockey10 [~addihocke@wikimedia/Addihockey10] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:43 -!- kondi [~kondi@wikimedia/kondicherry] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:44 < kelapstick> still needs expansion 00:46 -!- Bradford [kvirc@unaffiliated/bradford] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:47 -!- Bradford [kvirc@unaffiliated/bradford] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:48 -!- My76Strat [~chatzilla@wikipedia/My76Strat] has joined #wikipedia-en 00:48 -!- Jeske_Couriano [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/jeske-couriano/x-0000001] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0.1/20130409194949]] 00:53 -!- Bradford [kvirc@unaffiliated/bradford] has quit [Quit: Adiós chongos, no me extrañen :D] 01:03 -!- Guest40323 is now known as Computron_ 01:05 -!- ihaveamac [~ihaveamac@unaffiliated/ihaveamac] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:08 -!- foks|mobil [~foks@host86-167-255-210.range86-167.btcentralplus.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:08 -!- foks|mobil is now known as Guest46302 01:10 < Lydia_WMDE> ToAruShiroiNeko: i'm awake now ;-) 01:10 < Lydia_WMDE> kinda 01:10 -!- My76Strat [~chatzilla@wikipedia/My76Strat] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0.1/20130409194949]] 01:15 -!- JAF2801 [57721c7d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.114.28.125] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:18 -!- Guest46302 [~foks@host86-167-255-210.range86-167.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi] 01:19 * JAF2801 slaps TB 01:19 * JAF2801 slaps TB|Cloud 01:25 < elkng> use big wet trout 01:26 < JAF2801> away wont work 01:28 -!- JAF2801 [57721c7d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.114.28.125] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:31 < wctaiwan> Tuberculosis cloud. 01:31 -!- lbenedix1 [~lbenedix@g231249182.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:33 -!- lbenedix [~lbenedix@g231249014.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:34 -!- Solarra [~solarra@wikipedia/Solarra] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:42 -!- jubo2 [~jubo2@188-67-81-4.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:49 -!- My76Strat [~chatzilla@c-24-23-83-49.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:49 -!- My76Strat [~chatzilla@c-24-23-83-49.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 01:49 -!- My76Strat [~chatzilla@wikipedia/My76Strat] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:50 -!- M4r51n- [Elite5318@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-hbamdmvrjisahazk] has joined #wikipedia-en 01:50 < M4r51n-> who knows english very very good :D? 01:51 < mareklug> M4r51n- what do you need help with? 01:51 < M4r51n-> can we pm 01:52 < mareklug> if you like 01:59 -!- Mr-ex777 [~chatzilla@cm218-253-17-171.hkcable.com.hk] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:01 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:02 < Zhaofeng_Li> M4r51n, you can also try ##English, btw 02:02 < M4r51n-> tnx :) 02:04 -!- M4r51n- [Elite5318@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-hbamdmvrjisahazk] has quit [Quit: EliteBNC free bnc service. http://elitebnc.org - be a part of the Elite!] 02:07 -!- My76Strat [~chatzilla@wikipedia/My76Strat] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0.1/20130409194949]] 02:11 < dtm> is there a license for wikimedia commons which is creative commons but noncommercial? 02:11 < dtm> it looks like the three main licenses that it suggests, do not restrict commercial use 02:12 < dtm> is that something which is just out of bounds for wikipedia? 02:12 -!- FLHerne [~quassel@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:12 < dtm> i'm talking about for images 02:12 -!- BewareofDoug_ [~Doug__@wikipedia/Doug] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:13 -!- two2thehead_ [~User___@unaffiliated/two2thehead] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:15 < mareklug> no. we must allow commercial use for commons 02:15 -!- BewareofDoug [~Doug__@wikipedia/Doug] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:15 -!- BewareofDoug_ is now known as BewareofDoug 02:18 -!- kelapstick [ca83e93b@wikipedia/Kelapstick] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:23 -!- p858snake|l [~p858snake@unaffiliated/p858snake] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:24 -!- Titoxd [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 02:24 -!- p858snake|l [~p858snake@unaffiliated/p858snake] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:26 -!- Nickinator [~Nickinato@123-243-142-239.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:29 < mareklug> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=181269202 more reason to think EU is a bunch of fucktards 02:38 -!- AntiSpamMeta [~MetaBot@AntiSpamMeta/.] has quit [Quit: Automatic restart triggered due to persistent lag. Freenode staff: If this is happening too frequently, please set a nickserv freeze on my account, and once my connection is stable, unfreeze the account and /kill me to trigger a reconnect.] 02:43 -!- nuenfly [~nuenfly@ahrasyl.no-ip.org] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:44 < tzatziki> Ah, the EU. 02:44 < SigmaWP> night 02:44 -!- AntiSpamMeta [~MetaBot@AntiSpamMeta/.] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:45 -!- SigmaWP [~coalball@Wikipedia/Lowercase-Sigma] has quit [Quit: You cannot logic someone out of an opinion they did not logic themselves into] 02:46 -!- wctaiwan [~wctaiwan@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has quit [Quit: wctaiwan] 02:46 -!- TBloemink [~TB@ip100-69-58-81.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:46 -!- TBloemink [~TB@ip100-69-58-81.adsl.versatel.nl] has quit [Changing host] 02:46 -!- TBloemink [~TB@wikimedia/tbloemink] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:47 < dtm> mareklug: can i disallow commercial use, when uploading images directly to wikipedia? 02:48 < tzatziki> no 02:48 < dtm> and, if i want to reupload an image to wikimedia commons, do i have to first delete any reference to it from all wikipedia pages? 02:48 < mareklug> u are only allowed a narrow band of manouver in uploading images to wikipedia directly. those would be fair-use iamges. wikipedia even more so is against restrictions on free images such as noncommercial use 02:48 < dtm> k 02:49 < mareklug> you should read up on it and the reasons why. we want poor people to avail themselves of our resources for gain as well. 02:49 -!- Nickinator [~Nickinato@123-243-142-239.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:50 < mareklug> "[04:48:29] <dtm> and, if i want to reupload an image to wikimedia commons, do i have to first delete any reference to it from all wikipedia pages?" why? it will have the same name. a local copy (copies) then should be removed 02:51 < dtm> mareklug: i was asking because I saw a 'reupload' button on an unreferenced image, but i dont see one on a referenced image 02:51 < dtm> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Walfredo_Reyes,_Jr..jpeg 02:51 < dtm> I shot that photo and i'm wanting to reupload it 02:52 < dtm> a cropped version, closer to the instrument and face and whatnot 02:52 -!- NotASpy [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Heligoland] has joined #wikipedia-en 02:52 < dtm> assuming that maestro mareklug approves of the improved aesthetic, naturally 02:52 < dtm> <3 02:52 < mareklug> that file is on commons. you are confusing viewing a page on wikipedia and viewing it on commons. the upload new version of this file thing is on commons. just go to the commons version of this image 02:53 < dtm> < mareklug> dtm we won't know if it is indeed well done, until he shows it to us. it could be medium only, or rare. <-- noted 02:54 < dtm> wat. ok. 02:54 < mareklug> 'English: Portrait of Walfredo Reyes, Jr. at a Chicago concert at the Stiefel Theatre in Salina, Kansas" <-- this is highly confusing. 02:54 < mareklug> Chicago being the band, yes? 02:55 < mareklug> you should introduce wikilnks into your commons descriptions (or wikipedia image cutlines) that lead to relevant articles on the appropriate language versions of wikipedia 02:55 < dtm> mareklug: yes the band 02:55 < dtm> k 02:56 < dtm> i was in a hurry ;) hence the non-cropping in the first place 02:56 < mareklug> then link that to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/w%3AChicago%20%28band%29%7CChicago 02:56 < dtm> i created the article asap so I could call him, because he'd just given me his cell phone number 02:56 < mareklug> we have a saying in Polish, hurrying is only advised when catching fleas 02:56 < dtm> but it was a really good draft <3 02:57 < dtm> i had minimal citations for an extremely notable subject, and full metadata 02:58 < dtm> in fact i spent the whole first few hours just doing the article's infrastructure. assembling the metadata from other similar articles (most of which i'd originally written) 02:58 < dtm> so really my definition of 'hurry' and 'asap' was to make it minimally awesome. 02:58 < dtm> as per usual for my contributions to wikipedia 03:02 -!- TBloemink is now known as tb|gras 03:03 -!- Kinny [~Kinny@unaffiliated/kinny] has quit [] 03:04 < dtm> mareklug: i dont remember if i asked you. are you very familiar with <timeline>? i'm workin on one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Smuckola/timeline 03:04 < dtm> it has the wrong colors in the legend, and the legend is cut off 03:04 -!- My76Strat [~chatzilla@c-24-23-83-49.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:04 -!- My76Strat [~chatzilla@c-24-23-83-49.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 03:04 -!- My76Strat [~chatzilla@wikipedia/My76Strat] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:05 < dtm> i guess it doesn't wrap them by default, and i guess maybe i have to widen the entire thing. i dont know. 03:05 -!- Steven_Zhang_ [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:06 < mareklug> what exactly do you want and can't get to happen with timeline? 03:06 < dtm> does it take a while for a reuploaded image to update in an article? the article has the original, but if i click on the image, i see the updated one. 03:06 < mareklug> change the dimension by a pixel to force immediate generation of a new thumb 03:06 < dtm> mareklug: if you look at the timeline code, you can see that the legend's text are wrong. 03:07 < dtm> and the color is wrong on one of them 03:07 < mareklug> color wrong as in not matching the legend? 03:07 < dtm> it's duplicating "Drum set and Auxiliary" 03:07 < dtm> that appears in the legend twice. 03:07 -!- MrFish2 [~dabtd@wikipedia/Bsadowski1] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:07 < dtm> one is supposed to be "Drum set and Auxiliary" and the other is supposed to be "Drum set" 03:07 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 03:08 < dtm> one is supposed to be blue and one is supposed to be green 03:08 < Computron_> Are there any Norwegian speakers around? 03:08 -!- KP13 [~Kingpin13@Wikipedia/Kingpin13] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:08 -!- AaronBale [~AaronBale@74-141-191-36.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:08 < dtm> Computron_: no the speakers can play in any language 03:08 < dtm> just hit 'play' 03:09 < dtm> mareklug: and then 'audio' and 'video' are cut off, in the legend 03:10 < dtm> mareklug: oh i think i fixed it. it was mad because i had two items that both started with the same text. 03:10 < dtm> i changed "Drum set and Auxiliary" to "Both" and now it renders ok 03:10 < dtm> so i guess it was litearlly confusing "Drum set and Auxiliary" with "Drum set" 03:10 < mareklug> i guess it does not know about drum equipment all that much :/ 03:11 < dtm> yeah it's just a drum machine 03:11 < dtm> no real techniuqe 03:12 < dtm> okay. so this might be advanced usage which i can read about, but now i'd like to have two different colors of vertical bars in the same place, when he's had an audio release and a video release at the same time. 03:12 -!- ikonia_ [~irc@unaffiliated/ikonia] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:13 -!- vvv_ [~vvv@FARORE.MIT.EDU] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:13 -!- Shirik|Ghost [~mpdelbuon@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:13 -!- Kinny [~Kinny@unaffiliated/kinny] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:13 -!- JasonDC|BNC [~Jason@vps5.wireshout.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:16 -!- Steven_Zhang_ [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi] 03:16 -!- RX80 [~MX80@cust120.253.117.74.dsl.g3telecom.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 03:17 -!- Kingpin13 [~Kingpin13@Wikipedia/Kingpin13] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:17 -!- Izawayz [uid1203@wikipedia/DeltaQuad] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:17 -!- AaronBale_ 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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walfredo_Reyes,_Jr. 03:18 < dtm> i guess it'll be fixed tomorrow? 03:18 -!- Mr-ex777 [~chatzilla@cm218-253-17-171.hkcable.com.hk] has quit [Quit: going out] 03:18 < mareklug> dtm I frankly know less about timeline at this point than you, never having used it, so I suggest you just read up on it or look at the what links here on its page to see more involved examples that employ more features, including the ones you want to use. 03:26 -!- sam [~sam@poulet.zoy.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:26 -!- Amqui [~a@wikimedia/Amqui] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:26 -!- Tasmania [John@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-gpdpofqxeavgbpdo] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:26 -!- RD [~Ryan@wikimedia/Rjd0060] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:26 -!- legoktm [~legoktm@wikipedia/Legoktm] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:26 -!- Elfix_113 [elfix@wikipedia/pdpc.21for7.elfix] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:26 -!- aude 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06:16 < ChrisGualtieri> PM 06:16 < Peter-C> (Not an admin but, it would simplyfy it) 06:16 < Peter-C> Oh 06:16 < Peter-C> no 06:16 < Peter-C> not me 06:17 < QueenOfFrance> ChrisGualtieri: what is it 06:17 < Peter-C> I was going to say that if you say your request now than it would be a bit smother, save a minute 06:17 < QueenOfFrance> (I am an admin) 06:17 -!- sucheta [~sucheta@yuvipanda.xen.prgmr.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:18 -!- Ushau97 [~Ushau97@wikimedia/Ushau97] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:19 -!- Kendrickk [Kendrickk@AMontsouris-159-1-46-175.w90-46.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:21 < Kendrickk> Hi, I'm french and i've an interview for an american master degree, can you correct me some sentences please :) ? 06:22 -!- sucheta [~sucheta@yuvipanda.xen.prgmr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:27 -!- Kendrickk [Kendrickk@AMontsouris-159-1-46-175.w90-46.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [] 06:27 -!- zz_YuviPanda [~YuviPanda@yuvipanda.xen.prgmr.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:27 -!- Moe_Epsilon [~David@wikimedia/Moe-Epsilon] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:27 -!- Kendrickk [Kendrickk@AMontsouris-159-1-46-175.w90-46.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:27 -!- zz_nas is now known as nas 06:28 -!- zz_YuviPanda is now known as YuviPanda 06:28 -!- sucheta [~sucheta@yuvipanda.xen.prgmr.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:28 -!- lukas|away is now known as lukas23 06:28 -!- Chenzw [~chenzw@wikimedia/Chenzw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:32 -!- YuviPanda [~YuviPanda@yuvipanda.xen.prgmr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:33 -!- sucheta [~sucheta@yuvipanda.xen.prgmr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:35 -!- Sky2042 is now known as Sky2042_afk 06:39 -!- Gnumarcoo [~marco@wikipedia/Gnumarcoo] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:41 -!- Beria [~Beria@177.98.95.83] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:41 -!- Beria [~Beria@177.98.95.83] has quit [Changing host] 06:41 -!- Beria [~Beria@wikimedia/Beria] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:42 -!- sucheta [~sucheta@yuvipanda.xen.prgmr.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:45 -!- nas is now known as zz_nas 06:47 -!- southpark [~chatzilla@e179047232.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:47 -!- Kendrickk [Kendrickk@AMontsouris-159-1-46-175.w90-46.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [] 06:47 -!- Kendrickk [Kendrickk@AMontsouris-159-1-46-175.w90-46.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:48 -!- sucheta [~sucheta@yuvipanda.xen.prgmr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:57 < Demiurge1000> you paste umm sentences and I happy to make fun of them 06:58 < Demiurge1000> We can't get you accredited in realtime. 06:59 -!- Wiki13 [~Wiki13@wikimedia/Wiki13] has left #wikipedia-en [] 06:59 -!- Wiki13 [~Wiki13@wikimedia/Wiki13] has joined #wikipedia-en 06:59 < Wiki13> mhm.. 07:00 < Wiki13> Some text is totally invisible here... 07:00 < Wiki13> even for myself 07:01 -!- Gnumarcoo [~marco@wikipedia/Gnumarcoo] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:02 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:02 < QueenOfFrance> Wiki13: hmm? 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08:35 < Hahc21> :P 08:36 < Bradford> -.- 08:36 < Bradford> Hahc21: Bien 08:36 < Bradford> :| 08:36 < Hahc21> Tienpo sin verte ^^ 08:36 -!- farouezt [~zad@gateway/tor-sasl/farouezt] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:36 -!- closedmouth [mouthy@wikipedia/closedmouth] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:36 < Bradford> o_O 08:36 < Bradford> Hahc21: Enserió? :O 08:37 < Bradford> si estoy acá -_- 08:37 < Hahc21> :S 08:37 < Bradford> LOL 08:38 < a930913> Are there any guidelines preventing excessively long talk pages? 08:38 < QueenOfFrance> Not really 08:38 < QueenOfFrance> a930913: people are free to have massively long talk pages 08:38 < Bradford> Hahc21: Pues, ola k ase 08:38 < QueenOfFrance> it's kinda stupid imo, but :) 08:38 -!- farouezt [~zad@gateway/tor-sasl/farouezt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:39 < Bazinga> petan: we've been rved 08:40 < wctaiwan> a930913: it's generally recommended that you archive excessively long talk pages as a courtesy to viewers—loading times, scrolling speed, page size itself, etc. 08:40 < Hahc21> Bradford: asiendo lo que se ase un domingo y tu que ase 08:40 < wctaiwan> but people don't get banned for not archiving their talk pages, afaik. 08:40 < Hahc21> xD 08:40 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:40 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Client Quit] 08:40 < Bradford> Hahc21: ok, :| 08:40 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:40 < Bradford> Hahc21: haz jugado warcraft? 08:40 < Bradford> xD 08:40 < mareklug> a930913 you are supposed to archive them if they are too long to comfortably load into a browser. Feel free to archive the fucker's page for him. 08:40 < Bradford> Jetro: hi :-* 08:41 < a930913> Reckon a bot that explains how to archive when a page exceeds <100kB> would pass? 08:41 < Hahc21> Braford: Sí, hace aaaños :) 08:41 < mareklug> 100k is ridiculously little. 1MB is more reasonable 08:41 < Bradford> :| 08:42 < wctaiwan> I would actually recommend that you don't archive people's talk pages for them. Poke them about it, but if they're not willing (generally, people who have accumulated a long talk page do it on purpose) it's just going to cause conflict if you forcibly do it for them. 08:42 < a930913> mareklug: It is? Can you find me an example where 100k is all recent? 08:42 < mareklug> they can alwasy revert it. 08:42 < Bradford> Hahc21: Si Todo sale bien, me daran otro +q xD 08:43 < Hahc21> +q? 08:43 < mareklug> it is not about recentness. it is about no need. 08:43 < Bradford> Hahc21: Quiet -.- 08:43 < Hahc21> oh 08:43 < Bradford> Hahc21: Voy a romper un record xD 08:43 < Bradford> Hahc21: ya llevo 5 puestos 08:43 < a930913> mareklug: 100k is ~100 headers. 08:44 < Hahc21> Bradford: :D 08:44 < mareklug> it depends. there may be pictures. 08:44 * wctaiwan sets mode +q Bradford 08:44 < wctaiwan> >.> 08:44 < Bradford> ._. 08:44 < Bradford> Hahc21: Bueno, ellos disfrutan haciendo eso 08:44 < mareklug> Bradford pendejo, callate, por favor. Tu eres upseto los gente 08:44 < Bradford> D: 08:45 < Hahc21> D= 08:45 < Hahc21> How are you mareklug? 08:45 < wctaiwan> mareklug: I'm not upset, unless you're talking about yourself. 08:45 < Bradford> Hahc21: no hables con mareklug :| 08:45 < mareklug> fine Hahc21. I hope Venezuela is treeting you well. 08:45 < Bradford> vive insultandome 08:45 < Bradford> le puse un ignore 08:45 < Hahc21> jeje 08:45 -!- Demiurge1000 [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Demiurge1000] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0.1/20130409194949]] 08:46 -!- GorillaWarfare [~GorillaWa@wikipedia/GorillaWarfare] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:46 < Hahc21> mareklug: Well, it depends. Not bad, not not good either. 08:46 < Bradford> Hahc21: en #defocus carly y yo hicimos que prohibieran hablar español xD 08:47 < Hahc21> jejeje 08:47 < Bradford> Hahc21: pasabamos todo el día hablando nuestro idioma hasta que ellos se chngaron xDD 08:47 -!- ragesoss_ [~quassel@pool-74-98-210-132.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:48 -!- Fluff|away is now known as Fluffernutter 08:49 -!- Kendrickk [Kendrickk@AMontsouris-159-1-46-175.w90-46.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [] 08:49 -!- ChrisGualtieri [ae3ebae3@wikipedia/ChrisGualtieri] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:50 -!- nuenfly [~nuenfly@ahrasyl.no-ip.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:50 < Bradford> mareklug: I have removed the ignore please respect and do not insult me 08:51 < wctaiwan> Bradford: please make an effort to use english in this channel.. 08:51 < mareklug> Bradford su chicle americano es mi chicle americano 08:51 < Bradford> wctaiwan: no 08:51 < Bradford> :D 08:51 < wctaiwan> suit yourself. 08:52 < mareklug> wv that wa sin english AND spanish 08:52 < Bradford> ::| 08:52 < Bradford> wctaiwan: not speak english 08:52 < Bradford> :| 08:52 -!- benzi [~benzi@117.201.244.113] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:53 < wctaiwan> Bradford: suit yourself. I'm not a chanop. 08:53 < mareklug> Bradford why are you here? 08:54 < Bradford> mmm 08:54 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 08:55 < Bradford> wctaiwan: I can not understand your language and I'm not using a translator all the time, I only speak my language with users to understand me 08:56 -!- thineantiquepen is now known as TAP|away 08:56 -!- IH|away is now known as Ironholds 08:58 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has joined #wikipedia-en 08:58 < mareklug> wctaiwan how much memory, both real and virtual, does Textual swell up to on your machine, in your experience? 08:58 < mareklug> Activity Monitor 08:58 < wctaiwan> checking 08:59 < wctaiwan> right now it's using 72.7MB of real memory and 3.52GB of virtual memory 08:59 < wctaiwan> I assume the latter is just the size of the address space? 08:59 < wctaiwan> that's 6 channels across 2 networks 08:59 < mareklug> no need to assume. there is a column for each if you make them visible 09:00 < wctaiwan> well, 3.52GB 09:00 < wctaiwan> I'm trying to explain away the unreasonably large number. 09:00 < mareklug> are you sure that is right there on the line with the process in the process table? 09:01 < wctaiwan> what do you mean? 09:01 < wctaiwan> it's the entry for Textual in Activity Monitor 09:01 < mareklug> are you using Activity Monitor with My Processes selected? 09:01 < wctaiwan> yes 09:02 < mareklug> under the heading Virtual Mem it says 3 GB? 09:02 < wctaiwan> 190.5MB 09:02 < wctaiwan> that's "virtual private memory" 09:02 < wctaiwan> whatever that is. 09:02 < mareklug> i knew somethign was fishy in your reporting :/ 09:03 < mareklug> it is the amount od disk the process has assigned for its own use. 09:04 < wctaiwan> actually, I gave you the right answer based on your question 09:04 < mareklug> shared virtual memory would mean exactly that. 09:04 < wctaiwan> "Virtual : The total amount of address space in the process that's mapped to anything - whether that's an arbitrarily large space for variables or anything - it does not equate to actual VM use. (VSIZE)" 09:05 < wctaiwan> "Virtual memory is the size of the entire virtual memory of the process including those pages that are not currently resident in physical RAM." 09:05 < wctaiwan> meh 09:05 < a930913> irssi is using 469MB RAM D: 09:06 -!- nas is now known as zz_nas 09:06 < mareklug> i have 10 channels and the thing has bloated itself to 324.2 MB / 468.6 MB virtual 09:07 < mareklug> If I kill it, and restart it, as I periodically do Safari, which can creep up past 3 GB, it starts reasonably again. 09:07 < wctaiwan> hm. 09:08 -!- Beria [~Beria@wikimedia/Beria] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:08 < mareklug> memory leaks, if you asked me 09:08 < wctaiwan> probably. 09:08 < mareklug> brb 09:08 < a930913> mareklug: I think it might be logs. I'm listening to CB RC feed for example. That would be taking quite a bit. 09:08 < mareklug> it's only text and i keep no logs. so 6k of text scrollback. no way it would run into hundreds of megs 09:09 -!- mareklug [~mareklug@wikipedia/mareklug] has quit [] 09:09 -!- James_F|Away is now known as James_F 09:10 -!- mareklug [~mareklug@wikipedia/mareklug] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:12 < mareklug> so textual starts wtih a modest 34.2 MB / 174.3 MB virtual 09:12 -!- harej [~quassel@66-44-29-73.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:12 -!- harej [~quassel@66-44-29-73.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Changing host] 09:12 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:14 -!- metasyntactic is now known as kunwon1 09:16 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:20 -!- sdamashek is now known as sdamashek|busy 09:21 -!- benzi [~benzi@117.201.244.113] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 09:21 -!- Sky2042 is now known as Sky2042_afk 09:23 < Bazinga> lol. 09:23 < Bazinga> safari 09:23 -!- AndroUserChile [~androirc@201.220.233.201] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:23 < a930913> mareklug: I think I found where all my rams were going. 09:24 < a930913> Looks like I'm storing at least the last 24 hours of recent changes within irssi :p 09:24 < mareklug> Bazinga do you know anything about Safari, other than it is made by Apple? 09:24 -!- Entropy_ [3ba14489@gateway/web/freenode/ip.59.161.68.137] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:25 < Bazinga> mareklug: does it even have add-ons 09:25 < mareklug> I am using Adblock plus in it. do you have a brain? can you research things for yourself? 09:25 -!- AndroUserChile is now known as Carly 09:25 < mareklug> or is prejudice the blessed state? 09:25 -!- Carly [~androirc@201.220.233.201] has quit [Changing host] 09:25 -!- Carly [~androirc@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:26 -!- Maple__ [znc@trivialand/genius/maple] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:26 -!- sdamashek|busy is now known as sdamashek 09:26 < Maple__> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-05-06 <-- crap 09:26 < mareklug> Carly it's Sunday. Did you go make the photos russavia asked you for? 09:27 < Carly> Aah? 09:27 < Carly> No. 09:27 < Carly> I think I said before where the photos were taken 09:28 < Carly> And is not necessary go to there and verify 09:28 < mareklug> wctaiwan and now something from Maria Peszek, "Ładne słowa to" (Pretty words are these:) http://youtu.be/ZzUb1bevjTY 09:29 < mareklug> Carly, he needs two pictures that were not taken. one of the Russian Embassy, one of the Russian Center. We gave you the addresses. Do you want them again? 09:29 < Carly> Yes please 09:29 < mareklug> hold on 09:29 < Carly> I forgot the addresses 09:33 < Carly> Bradford stop inviting to your channel 09:33 < Bradford> joder 09:33 < Bradford> Carly: stop you 09:33 -!- rr0 [~rr0@wikipedia/ruslik0] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:34 < Carly> Bradford just leave the spam 09:34 < Bradford> joder 09:34 < Bradford> Carly: ya dejame en paz 09:35 < Carly> ? 09:35 < Bradford> Hahc21: let's play a game of warcraft? 09:35 < mareklug> Carly Russina Embassy, Address: Av. Américo Vespucio 2127, Vitacura, Santiago, Chile 09:35 < Carly> Let me save 09:36 < Hahc21> Bradford: I can't now. I'm eating and will go to work soon 09:36 -!- JoFo [~Jean-Fran@host-213-213-224-210.brutele.be] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:36 < Carly> Ready mareklug 09:36 < Carly> Another one? 09:36 < Bradford> Hahc21: ok .-. 09:36 < mareklug> looking... 09:37 -!- JoFo [~Jean-Fran@host-213-213-224-210.brutele.be] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:38 < mareklug> Carly The Russian Center of Science and Culture , Address: Ejercito 57, Santiago, Chile 09:38 < mareklug> wctaiwan you like? 09:38 < Bradford> (∩`-´)⊃━☆゚.*・。゚ 09:39 < Carly> Do we have a Russian Center of Science? 09:39 < Carly> Ooh. 09:39 < mareklug> and Culture 09:39 < wctaiwan> mareklug: sorry, I'll listen to it some other time. Kind of need to work right now. 09:39 < Carly> Mareklug and what do you want me to do with that addresses? 09:39 -!- JoFo [~Jean-Fran@host-213-213-224-210.brutele.be] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:39 < mareklug> picture of the building front 09:39 < mareklug> in both cases 09:40 -!- JoFo [~Jean-Fran@host-213-213-224-210.brutele.be] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:41 < Carly> Ok 09:41 < Carly> Mareklug ;) 09:41 < mareklug> ? 09:42 -!- JoFo [~Jean-Fran@host-213-213-224-210.brutele.be] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:42 < Carly> Mareklug what? 09:43 -!- JoFo [~Jean-Fran@host-213-213-224-210.brutele.be] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:43 -!- Jasper_Deng_away [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Jasper-Deng] has joined #wikipedia-en 09:43 < Carly> Please...if you ask me a thing try to smile and be polite or you'll never get a thing from me 09:44 -!- Bradford is now known as ignore- 09:44 < mareklug> take pix of both buildings. thank you in advance, Carly 09:45 < Carly> Is not necessary sarcasm 09:45 < Carly> I will. 09:49 -!- YE is now known as YE|AFK 09:49 -!- Jasper_Deng_away is now known as Jasper_Deng 09:52 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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Both combined = bad judgement and lots of trouble for Riley. 10:17 < mareklug> wctaiwan how is it pretty horrible? it is no more horrible than Firefox or Chrome or whathaveyou. It works very well in MacOS X especially if you have a trackpad. 10:17 < wctaiwan> Nope, Firefox does private browsing right 10:17 < Cncmaster> Password sharing or account hacking, we will never know. 10:17 < wctaiwan> as in, it's actually private 10:17 < mareklug> wctaiwan I would not know, I never handled private browsing in Safari. I usually do it in Opera. 10:18 < Cncmaster> Probably password sharing. 10:18 < wctaiwan> safari's private browsing is glitchy. It sometimes leaves stuff behind. Sessions time out in the middle. 10:18 < wctaiwan> and what were they thinking with the full-width tabs :/ 10:18 -!- SuicidalZerg [~nnscript@wikipedia/The-Thing-That-Should-Not-Be] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:19 < wctaiwan> they used to be way ahead with the inspector 10:19 < mareklug> wctaiwan full width tabs don't bug me in the least. anything else wrong with it to earn the rank of pretty horrible? 10:19 < wctaiwan> now firefox and chrome both have something similar as well. 10:19 < wctaiwan> the non-private private browsing affects me greatly. 10:19 < Bazinga> I migrated to chrome from firefox 10:19 < wctaiwan> well, not materially. But I notice it a lot. 10:19 < Cncmaster> Do any of you who use firefox have stability issues? 10:19 < wctaiwan> not I (I use it on windows). 10:20 < mareklug> I think Bazinga is pretty unstable, and he said he uses or used to use firefox 10:20 < Cncmaster> I use it :) 10:20 -!- thineantiquepen [~thineanti@wikipedia/Thine-Antique-Pen] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi] 10:20 < wctaiwan> hah, good one :p 10:20 < mareklug> i always good one. 10:21 < wctaiwan> wctaiwan cannot into good snarking. 10:22 < Bazinga> Do mobile browsers support svg? 10:22 < Bazinga> I'm assuming they do.. 10:22 < wctaiwan> try it? 10:22 < Jetro> why does WP use svg 10:22 < Jetro> it sucks 10:22 < Jetro> svg sucks!!! 10:22 < Jetro> okay no I know nothing of it 10:23 < Bazinga> Jetro: it's an image format that can get exponentially big without getting pixelated. 10:23 < wctaiwan> Jetro: lol, it shows :p 10:23 < MJ94> hey wctaiwan 10:23 < Jetro> oh awesome 10:23 < Jetro> I know 10:23 < Jetro> :D 10:23 < wctaiwan> hey. 10:24 < Bradford> Jetro: :-* 10:25 < Theopolisme> was at six flags in atlanta with girlfriend on Friday--around 2pm, got a call that my mom had suddenly had a stroke. talk about a shitty date. i of course flew back home and i think she's going to be okay now, but it was still quite a scare. 10:25 < Ironholds> oh no :( 10:25 < Ironholds> Theopolisme: wishing you and yours the best of luck :/. 10:26 < wctaiwan> O_O 10:26 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 10:26 < wctaiwan> mareklug: look over something for me please? 10:26 < mareklug> sure 10:27 -!- Pharos [~chatzilla@pool-71-183-181-56.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:27 < Cncmaster> And lastly, here's the 5 minute negative userbox I said I would make: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cncmaster/Userboxes/CONTENT 10:27 < mareklug> jetro why would you say SVG sucks? Is this some sort of a Norwegian fishing thing to say? 10:28 < Theopolisme> Thanks a bundle, Oliver...yeah, it really makes you think, though. About how powerless we are against ourselves and nature in general. :/ 10:28 < Bazinga> mareklug: he didn't know what he was talking about 10:28 < Bazinga> just like you when you say that google sucks 10:28 < mareklug> he still doesn't. And you, Bazinga, as someone who does not know what it is that you are talking about, surely can empathize with him the best. 10:28 < Ironholds> Theopolisme: indeed. These things can happen to anyone, at any time. But in terms of power: hey, the medical world is getting pretty good at treating these sort of problems, precisely because they can just...happen. Hopefully she'll be fine :) 10:28 < Ironholds> mareklug: be nice. 10:29 < wctaiwan> be nice, says IH. 10:29 * wctaiwan ducks 10:29 < Bazinga> O_O https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/36/Dojikko2.3.svg that's one crazy SVG 10:29 < Ironholds> wctaiwan: indeed. On that note, would you mind asking your friends to give a project money? 10:29 < Ironholds> ditto the rest of you; http://blog.ironholds.org/?p=105 10:30 < wctaiwan> potential browser freeze warning on Bazinga's link. 10:30 < Bazinga> wctaiwan: not on chrome 10:31 < Cncmaster> wctaiwan: you were 5 seconds late on that warning -.- 10:31 < wctaiwan> xD 10:31 < Bazinga> lo 10:31 < Bazinga> firefox 10:31 < wctaiwan> Ironholds: saw that a few days back. I'm afraid I'm not the fundraising type, but I certainly hope it ends up being successful. 10:31 < Bazinga> Ironholds: reading 10:32 < SuicidalZerg> Dafuq is that, anyways? 10:32 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:32 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Client Quit] 10:32 < Ironholds> SuicidalZerg: is what? 10:32 < Ironholds> wctaiwan: so tell yer friends ;p 10:32 < SuicidalZerg> That SVG 10:32 < wctaiwan> a cheap device that stores wikipedia locally and displays it on screen. 10:32 < wctaiwan> oh. 10:33 < wctaiwan> Ironholds: have they tried to apply for a grant from the WMF? 10:33 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:33 -!- ragesoss_ [~quassel@pool-74-98-210-132.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:33 < wctaiwan> it seems like the sort of thing WMF should fund. It's concrete and would likely have immediate results.. 10:33 < wctaiwan> s/fund/help fund/ 10:33 < Ironholds> they being WMF employees? err. awwwkward ;p 10:33 < wctaiwan> oh, right. 10:33 < wctaiwan> didn't notice that part. 10:33 -!- Jasper_Deng_away is now known as Jasper_Deng 10:33 -!- Matthew_ [~matthew_@wikipedia/matthewrbowker] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:34 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:35 * Cncmaster bites his third user today 10:36 < mareklug> Bazinga you will be happy to learn that Safari has no problems rendering that, unlike MediaWiki, including zooming in and out 10:36 < Bazinga> Highfive! 10:36 -!- kondi [~kondi@wikimedia/kondicherry] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:36 < BlastHardcheese> I would rather have WMF fund backups of the projects so we don't lose everything if a meteor hits the data center 10:36 < mareklug> it's a very nice example of SVG artistic work. Jetro should view it to understand the reasons for using SVG 10:37 < Ironholds> BlastHardcheese: we have backups. 10:37 < Ironholds> and multiple datacentres. 10:37 < Ironholds> and db dumps in case all of those fail 10:37 < wctaiwan> mareklug: got the link? 10:38 < Jetro> whut 10:38 < Bazinga> mareklug: like this https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/Hadako-tan.svg (NSFW) 10:43 -!- ihaveamac [~ihaveamac@unaffiliated/ihaveamac] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:44 < mareklug> very clean lines. can't be done by raster. you would have to have an insane resolution and pixel density. 10:45 < wctaiwan> bedtime. Night folks. 10:46 -!- wctaiwan [~wctaiwan@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has quit [Quit: wctaiwan] 10:48 -!- ihaveamac [~ihaveamac@unaffiliated/ihaveamac] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:49 -!- jorm [~bharris@wikimedia/jorm] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:57 -!- ihaveamac [~ihaveamac@ip72-199-26-55.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:57 -!- ihaveamac [~ihaveamac@ip72-199-26-55.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Changing host] 10:57 -!- ihaveamac [~ihaveamac@unaffiliated/ihaveamac] has joined #wikipedia-en 10:58 < mareklug> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Oz_Steps#Dakota and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Oz_Steps 10:59 < mareklug> needs a warning, likely followed by global indefinite. the behavior is not improving. 11:01 -!- harej [~quassel@66-44-29-73.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:01 -!- harej [~quassel@66-44-29-73.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Changing host] 11:01 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:08 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:08 -!- Solarra [~solarra@wikipedia/Solarra] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:10 -!- camerin [hoax@newelite2.bshellz.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:14 -!- rr0 [~rr0@wikipedia/ruslik0] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:14 -!- Bradford [kvirc@unaffiliated/bradford] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:18 -!- Solarra [~solarra@wikipedia/Solarra] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPad - bai] 11:19 -!- Fluffernutter is now known as Fluff|away 11:19 < mareklug> NotASpy http://www.carsuk.net/2013-vw-golf-tdi-bluemotion-mk-7-costs-from-20335/ they withhold these super thrifty super-high-gas-milage super-underpowered versions from the US. 11:20 -!- Olipro [~Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.21for7.olipro] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:21 < NotASpy> mareklug: that's because they're horrible. Utterly, utterly horrible. 11:21 < mareklug> they, being VW America? 11:21 < NotASpy> Yeah. 11:22 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 11:22 < NotASpy> Be thankful. Send them letters of thanks. 11:22 -!- Ironholds is now known as IH|away 11:22 < mareklug> I am sure the car would sell. they just don't want to cannibalize their more muscled versions. 11:22 < NotASpy> I had the Volvo equivalent a couple of years back as a courtesy car when mine was in for servicing. It stopped the engine when you took it out of gear and started automatically when you put your foot on the clutch. 11:22 < mareklug> 88 mpg. instead of 45 mpg. imagine that. 11:23 < NotASpy> it also told you when to change gears with a display on the dashboard. 11:24 < mareklug> unless you drive in mountain country, you really can do with the anemic 88 mpg car 11:24 < NotASpy> in saying that, it was perfectly happy sitting at 70mph in cruise on the motorway, and it makes the Toyota Prius look like something Coco the Clown should be using in the big top. 11:25 < NotASpy> but being better than a Toyota Prius isn't exactly a mark of quality. It's the most pointless, useless car in the history of the world. 11:26 -!- Olipro [~Olipro@d.e.r.p.6.a.1.0.d.d.0.7.2.0.1.0.a.2.ip6.arpa] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:26 < BlastHardcheese> buhbuhbuh hybrid green 11:26 -!- Olipro is now known as Guest68402 11:27 < NotASpy> A car that produces twice as much carbon dioxide emissions to produce, requires vast areas to be mined to make the batteries and because the batteries don't work when it's cold, or hot, the engine spends all its time running, but it's a not very powerful, quite old fashioned petrol engine that, frankly, likes a drink. 11:27 -!- camerin [hoax@newelite2.bshellz.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:29 -!- Cncmaster [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Cncmaster] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0.1/20130409194949]] 11:29 < mareklug> and then you have the landfill problem with all those batteries. and of cours, in the case of California, the energy that comes to power electric cars comes in 55% out of state from dirty, brown-coal plants on interior West lands, usually Indian. 11:30 -!- Lydia` [~Llydia@c-69-243-155-12.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:30 < mareklug> by comparison, the TDI engined cars are simple, last forever, and use clean diesel which can be synthesized from gas. 11:31 < NotASpy> People only buy the Prius in order to fool their friends into thinking it's a world saving superhero of a car (and/or because the dealer has fooled them in the first place), in reality a big Jaguar or BMW is less damaging to the planet. A VW Bluemotion, Volvo DRIVe diesels or the new Ford Ecoboost Petrols are considerably better for the environment. 11:31 < NotASpy> but until you make the VW as much of a babe magnet as the Prius, few people will buy it. 11:32 < mareklug> actually, they are selling well in the States. exceptionally, even. Especially the Jetta TDI 11:32 -!- James_F is now known as James_F|Away 11:32 < NotASpy> but you don't get the super economical ones, do you ? 11:32 < mareklug> no, as I linked you. the supereconomical ones are not offered here. I don't know why. 11:34 < mareklug> http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1079454_vw-unveils-high-mileage-diesel-golf-in-paris-that-the-u-s-wont-get 11:35 < mareklug> "That’s partly due to tough U.S. emissions laws on diesel engines, plus the general desire among U.S. consumers for slightly more powerful engines. " 11:35 -!- Patar_knight [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Patar-knight] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:36 < mareklug> The part about tough US emissions is laughably false. The VW clean diesel far exceeds even California diesel standards, the toughest. 11:36 < mareklug> I am a US consumer, and I would buy a Bluemotion over the slightly more powerful engines, if it were offered. 11:37 -!- Athyria is now known as Isarra 11:37 < NotASpy> the normal Jetta TDI is a damn fine car, the 2.0 diesel will normally outperform a similar petrol but give you in the region of 50% better fuel consumption. 11:38 < mareklug> I get 45 mpg mixed use on my TDI 11:38 < NotASpy> that is what people are saying Americans want - no performance hit but much better fuel consumption. The Bluemotion isn't exactly slow though. 11:39 < NotASpy> I did have a Volvo S60 with the 2.4 5 cylinder diesel, it produced 185hp and when it was traded in, the computer said 39.7mpg average. 11:40 -!- ragesoss_ [~quassel@pool-74-98-210-132.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:41 -!- nuenfly [~nuenfly@ahrasyl.no-ip.org] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:41 < NotASpy> it was almost identical in terms of spec, size, speed and performance to the Lexus IS250 with the V6 petrol, which averages 25mpg for similar driving (the Volvo was 1mph faster, for example). I think that's the sort of things most Americans want (or are being told they want). 11:42 -!- jubo2 [~jubo2@188-67-81-4.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: Beams.] 11:44 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:45 < mareklug> well, you see, this is a tremendously mixed population. There is no per se what Americans want, especially in cars. Different strokes for different folks, and in different regions. A Texas rancher will not be caught dead in a VW of any model. 11:46 < mareklug> But a midwest family or single person in the city, that's a different story. 11:47 < NotASpy> as I understand it, the biggest issue isn't what cars are on offer, but a difficulty in actually obtaining diesel fuel in many areas - drivers have to use truck stops and high volume pumps which can be messy and spill alot. Is that changing much ? 11:47 -!- Magog_the_Ogre [~Magog_the@wikipedia/Magog-the-Ogre] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:48 < mareklug> no. diesel is available commonly in cities. 11:48 -!- zz_nas is now known as nas 11:48 < mareklug> and yes, on the highway, you will avail yourself of a truck stop, except they often will have separate pumps for cars due to different tax structure 11:49 < NotASpy> so the big issue in take up of high mpg diesels is simply the manufacturers will not import them ? 11:51 < mareklug> yes 11:53 -!- harej [~quassel@pool-71-178-88-195.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:53 -!- harej [~quassel@pool-71-178-88-195.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 11:53 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has joined #wikipedia-en 11:54 < NotASpy> the only thing I can think might be making them hesitant then is the diesel particulate filters, which can cause problems for low mileage cars. 11:56 < NotASpy> the engines and almost all other components are pretty standard, just with different engine management settings and a few other tweaks to make them more economical. It's not as if there would be issues in dealer support or parts supply issues. 11:58 < Bazinga> Who here knows JS 12:01 -!- ihaveamac [~ihaveamac@unaffiliated/ihaveamac] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:03 -!- ihaveamac [~ihaveamac@unaffiliated/ihaveamac] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:05 -!- camerin [hoax@newelite2.bshellz.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:20 < ihaveamac> debian wheezy released 12:21 < Jetro> debian sucky released 12:21 < Jetro> Suckbuntu 13.04 out now! 12:21 < Jetro> Makes sure to crash your computer(TM) 12:21 < ihaveamac> I thought that was windows 12:21 < ihaveamac> that crashed 12:21 < Jetro> no 12:21 < mareklug> ihaveamac is that debian 7 now? 12:21 < ihaveamac> mareklug: yes 12:21 < Jetro> Windows is superstable 12:21 < ihaveamac> debian jessie will be coming next 12:22 < ihaveamac> I use wine for my windows programs, some of them run better than on windows 12:22 < Bazinga> mareklug: Not trying anything here, but I can't remember.. do the new apple maps have bicycle directions? I'm not trying to debate what is better I just want to know... 12:22 < mareklug> Jetro where do you get your information? the rock stable systems are the supercomputers which to the exclusion of nearly everything run unix/linux systems 12:22 -!- koishi [~weather@cpe-098-027-034-197.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:22 < kondi> wheezy comes with xfce, right? 12:22 < Jetro> So I hear 12:23 < ihaveamac> no, but you can get it easily 12:23 -!- camerin [hoax@newelite2.bshellz.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:23 < mareklug> Bazinga you want me to check on my iPod? 12:23 < Jetro> but whatever I hear and do or try, Windows rules and Linux sux 12:23 < Jetro> :( 12:23 < Bazinga> That would be nice thanks. 12:23 < Jetro> Wheezy is a good name though 12:23 < Jetro> probbly what it sounds like 12:23 < Jetro> wheezing 12:23 < Bazinga> (I would check mine but I haven't turned it on... since a certain event happened) 12:23 < Jetro> since it's so old and shit 12:23 < Jetro> damn 12:23 < Bazinga> and I can't find the charger. 12:23 < ihaveamac> Jetro: did you use wubi/that ubuntu installer for windows? 12:24 < Jetro> Yep 12:24 < Jetro> Not installing it from Windows 12:24 < Jetro> but you know 12:24 < Jetro> the USB creator thingy 12:24 < mareklug> car, ped, bus/transportayion 12:24 < ihaveamac> wubi is no longer supported 12:25 < ihaveamac> and it wasn't very good anyway 12:25 < Bazinga> Do they have things like catwalks and that specified? 12:25 < ihaveamac> partitioning makes it better 12:25 < Bazinga> (things only bikes and peds can go on) 12:25 < mareklug> how would i test that? 12:25 < ihaveamac> I've lived off of Linux for a few months now 12:25 < mareklug> it has peds 12:25 < Bazinga> OK but would it make the peds follow the roads or take path shortcuts 12:26 < mareklug> dunno. suggest a royte to test 12:26 < mareklug> route 12:26 < Bazinga> hm 12:26 -!- Patar_knight [~chatzilla@isc007.wireless-pennnet.upenn.edu] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:26 -!- Patar_knight [~chatzilla@isc007.wireless-pennnet.upenn.edu] has quit [Changing host] 12:26 -!- Patar_knight [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Patar-knight] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:26 < Bazinga> I'mma test on my iPod 12:26 < Bazinga> But first I have to update from iOS Beta 6.0... 12:26 < Bazinga> >_> 12:26 < Bazinga> brb 12:26 < mareklug> at least it does tell you if your car route requires tolls :) 12:26 -!- lukas23 is now known as lukas|away 12:26 -!- Guerillero [~Gueriller@209.243.43.183] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:26 -!- Guerillero [~Gueriller@209.243.43.183] has quit [Changing host] 12:26 -!- Guerillero [~Gueriller@wikipedia/Guerillero] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:27 < Bazinga> we don't have tolls in canada except on Highway 1... 12:27 < Bazinga> I think 12:28 < Bazinga> Apparently I bike 10km a day... 12:28 < Bazinga> not bad. 12:31 < BartlomiejB> I am not a native English speaker, so I have a question: from [[Reichskonkordat]]: "Meanwhile, although the Protestant Churches, being local congregations, remained unaffected by restriction on foreign support. Hitler's government negotiated other agreements with them which in essence put Nazi officials, most of whom were Catholics, into positions of influence or outright authority over Protestant Churches." shouldn't be a coma instead of d 12:32 < Bazinga> lmao, mareklug my ipod + case fits on the screen of my phone 12:32 < mareklug> so it does 12:32 < BartlomiejB> BTW - I am in the process of translating this article into Polish. (I am currently blocked in pl.wiki for half a year, so I am not sure where I'll post it when finished, but oh well...) 12:34 < mareklug> BartlomiejB that period b4 Hitler's interrupts the sentence --> , aslo comma after them 12:34 -!- southpark [~chatzilla@e179047232.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 12:35 -!- TheChance [~thechance@c-76-115-162-246.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:35 < mareklug> Bazinga there are tolls on bridges to Canada 12:36 -!- addihockey10 [~addihocke@wikimedia/Addihockey10] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:36 < addihockey10> Mareklug what is the latest iOS 12:36 < addihockey10> For ipod 4 12:36 < mareklug> 6.1.3 and 6.1.4 for iPhone 12:37 -!- southpark [~chatzilla@e179047232.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:38 -!- Jasper_Deng is now known as Jasper_Deng_away 12:39 -!- YE|Semi-AFK is now known as YE 12:40 -!- Ryan_Vesey [a57be978@gateway/web/freenode/ip.165.123.233.120] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:40 -!- Ryan_Vesey [a57be978@gateway/web/freenode/ip.165.123.233.120] has quit [Changing host] 12:40 -!- Ryan_Vesey [a57be978@wikipedia/Ryan-Vesey] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:40 < mareklug> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pux1js9v3meo5r6/2009-06-26%2013.42.48.jpg <-- what do you think of my photo 12:40 < mareklug> Bazinga ^ 12:41 < BartlomiejB> mareklug: OK, thanks. I fixed a period: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Reichskonkordat&diff=553672121&oldid=552337316 12:41 < mareklug> did you put in the second comma? BartlomiejB 12:41 < Bazinga> mareklug: add hydraulics? 12:41 -!- lag1 [~lag@27-32-195-47.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:42 < mareklug> obviously its hydraulics are better than what you had in mind 12:42 -!- lukas|away is now known as lukas23 12:42 < mareklug> but is that a cool sculpture or what? 12:42 < Bazinga> Pretty good. 12:42 < BartlomiejB> mareklug: no, only replaced one . with , 12:43 < mareklug> BartlomiejB I said inserta comma after them "[14:34:13] <mareklug> BartlomiejB that period b4 Hitler's interrupts the sentence --> , aslo comma after them" 12:43 < mareklug> Bazinga well it is in the library of my alma mater, Northern Kentucky University 12:44 < Bazinga> mareklug: is that your doctor pepper 12:44 < mareklug> it sure is, or was. 12:45 -!- southpark [~chatzilla@e179047232.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:45 < mareklug> Bazinga http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:NKU-library-1.jpg 12:45 < Bazinga> lol 12:45 < Bazinga> I can barely use my ipod 12:45 < mareklug> why is that? 12:46 < Bazinga> screen seems too small. 12:46 < Bazinga> OK. 12:47 < Bazinga> I'm not lying about this at all... 12:47 < Bazinga> but I typed in a location in my city. 12:47 < Bazinga> on my Android it sent me to the right place... 12:47 < Bazinga> on my iPod it sent me to Utah. 12:47 -!- slkdkghkjf [~n@27-32-195-47.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:48 -!- lag1 [~lag@27-32-195-47.static.tpgi.com.au] has left #wikipedia-en [] 12:48 < mareklug> Bazinga I THINK you need to tell it your "zip" codes. besides if I think you mean the city which I think you mean, I have no problems 12:49 < slkdkghkjf> helloo 12:50 < slkdkghkjf> y 12:50 -!- Izhidez is now known as Izawayz 12:53 -!- IH|away is now known as Ironholds 12:55 < mareklug> Bazinga it says George Clooney is an alum of my skool. whohoo. 12:55 -!- AndyBotwin [~RandyNewm@unaffiliated/andybotwin] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:55 < Bazinga> let's see who's alum from mine. 12:56 -!- Patar_knight [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Patar-knight] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:59 < mareklug> Bazinga we don't have freedom of panorama for USA, so I cannot give away my picture of the dino/beetle. I wish I could put it on Commons. 12:59 < Bazinga> You don't have FOP? 12:59 < Bazinga> :O 12:59 < mareklug> buildings only. 12:59 -!- southpark [~chatzilla@e179047232.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wikipedia-en 12:59 < Bazinga> I'm pretty sure we can do whatever we want in canada 12:59 < Bazinga> except for 2D art 12:59 < mareklug> start a canadian wiki 13:00 < Bazinga> pretty sure there is one] 13:00 -!- AndyBotwin [~RandyNewm@unaffiliated/andybotwin] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:00 -!- kondi [~kondi@wikimedia/kondicherry] has quit [Quit: night] 13:02 -!- YE [~chatzilla@ip70-180-214-180.lv.lv.cox.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0.1/20130409194949]] 13:02 -!- techman224 [~techman22@Wikimedia/Techman224] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:07 -!- MatmaRex_ [~MatmaRex@178-37-101-47.adsl.inetia.pl] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:10 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 13:10 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:12 -!- AntiSpamMeta [~MetaBot@AntiSpamMeta/.] has quit [Quit: brb fixing a major syncing error] 13:13 -!- AntiSpamMeta [~MetaBot@AntiSpamMeta/.] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:14 -!- Patar_knight [~chatzilla@quad2-925.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:14 -!- Patar_knight [~chatzilla@quad2-925.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu] has quit [Changing host] 13:14 -!- Patar_knight [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Patar-knight] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:15 < MJ94> hey Ironholds - you around? 13:15 < Ironholds> yup 13:15 < MJ94> Ironholds: Any idea why https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Sandbox&diff=553676120&oldid=553412509 doesn't notify me? 13:16 < Ironholds> no signature 13:16 < Ironholds> (also, I'm not sure if you can notify yourself) 13:16 < MJ94> It's two separate accounts. 13:16 < MJ94> MJ49 and MJ94. 13:17 -!- Keegan [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Keegan] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:17 < Ironholds> okay. Then, no sig ;p 13:19 -!- IShadowed_ [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:19 < MJ94> Ironholds: Still didn't work http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Sandbox&diff=prev&oldid=553676470 13:22 -!- BartlomiejB is now known as BartZilla 13:22 < Ironholds> huh. Stick it in bugzilla? I'm not meant to be going near Echo this weekend. 13:23 -!- BartZilla is now known as BartlomiejB 13:24 < MJ94> Ironholds: oh? 13:24 -!- sdamashek is now known as Vacation9_ 13:24 < Krenair> MJ94, did you use '~~~~' for that? 13:24 -!- Keegan [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Keegan] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:24 < Krenair> I'm not too familiar with Echo's DiscussionParser... 13:24 < MJ94> yes 13:24 < Krenair> hmm 13:25 < legoktm> Krenair: if you have a sec, is there already a bug for non-clickable links like http://cl.ly/image/2W3K2h0G3Z2O 13:25 < Krenair> yes 13:25 < legoktm> do you know the #? I'll cc to it 13:26 -!- Ignatzmice [4b451dd7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.69.29.215] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:27 < Krenair> !b 47999 13:27 < Krenair> ^ Is it that? 13:27 < Krenair> groan 13:27 < Krenair> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47999 13:27 -!- Cncmaster [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Cncmaster] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:27 < Cncmaster> Who thinks this account is compromised: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/K_a_r_n_a 13:28 < Cncmaster> Came back after 2 years yesterday with borderline disruptive editing patterns. 13:28 < Ignatzmice> One edit Jan. 9, actually 13:29 < Ignatzmice> But doesn't look to good recently 13:29 < Cncmaster> Well, I'm really struck by the edits to lego's RfA earlier. 13:29 < legoktm> Krenair: Looks right, thanks 13:30 < Cncmaster> Should I raise something at ANI or AIV? 13:30 -!- JoFo [~Jean-Fran@host-213-213-224-210.brutele.be] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:31 -!- Vacation9_ is now known as sdamashek 13:31 < Cncmaster> Ignatzmice 13:31 < Bazinga> legoktm: How do I check if two templates are available on a page? 13:31 < Bazinga> are used* 13:31 < Bazinga> two specific templates 13:31 < Krenair> MJ94, I don't know. Andrew (Werdna) might know more but he's not around at the moment 13:31 < Shirik> Cncmaster: looking 13:32 < Ignatzmice> You could if you want, I don't have much experience 13:32 < Ignatzmice> with stuff like that. 13:32 < legoktm> Bazinga: You get the list of templates on the page, give me a sec 13:32 < legoktm> Bazinga: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=templates&titles=API&format=jsonfm 13:32 < Shirik> hm 13:33 < Shirik> not much to go on rightn ow; will keep an eye on though 13:33 < MJ94> filing a bug 13:33 < Cncmaster> Shirik: I'll watch for further disruption. 13:33 < Bazinga> legoktm: for example, I want to check if {{VVA|x.jpg}} and {{SVG}} etc are on the same page and give me a list of those 13:34 < Cncmaster> does seem a bit odd though 13:34 < Bazinga> so I can remove the latter tag if x.jpg is a valid file 13:34 -!- JoFo [~Jean-Fran@host-213-213-224-210.brutele.be] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:34 < MJ94> Cncmaster: he's edited in breaks before. 13:34 < Betacommand> Bazinga: catscan 13:34 < legoktm> ^ 13:35 -!- Barras [barras@wikimedia/barras] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:35 < Bazinga> Betacommand: ah, that makes things easier. 13:35 -!- Pine [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Pine] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:35 -!- Jeske_Couriano [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/jeske-couriano/x-0000001] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0.1/20130409194949]] 13:36 < Betacommand> Bazinga: will have a link for you shortly 13:36 -!- Guerillero [~Gueriller@wikipedia/Guerillero] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:37 < Bazinga> Ok. 13:38 < Betacommand> Bazinga: {{VVA}} doesnt exit 13:38 < Bazinga> Betacommand: sorry, that's the commons template.. let me get the enwiki one 13:38 < Bazinga> I don't think {{SVG}} exists on enwiki either 13:39 < Betacommand> Bazinga: are you working on commons or en? 13:39 < Bazinga> {{Should be SVG}} 13:39 < Bazinga> en for now 13:39 < Bazinga> and {{Vector version available}} 13:41 -!- IShadowed_ [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:42 -!- IShadowed_ is now known as IShadowed 13:44 -!- Doug_Weller [~Doug_Well@wikipedia/Dougweller] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 21.0/20130430204233]] 13:44 < Bazinga> Betacommand: so essentially, if the file has any instance of http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Should_be_SVG&hidelinks=1&hidetrans=1 these... 13:45 < Betacommand> Bazinga: I know 13:45 -!- Barras [barras@wikimedia/barras] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:45 < Betacommand> Bazinga: Im waiting on the tool to finish so I can give your a URL 13:45 < Bazinga> Ok. 13:45 < Bazinga> thank you :-) 13:46 -!- sdamashek [~Vacation9@wikipedia/Vacation9] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 13:46 -!- sdamashe1 [~2017sdama@ltsp2.csl.tjhsst.edu] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:46 -!- sdamashe1 [~2017sdama@ltsp2.csl.tjhsst.edu] has quit [Client Quit] 13:46 -!- JohnLewis [~johnlewis@2.124.165.119] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:46 -!- JohnLewis [~johnlewis@2.124.165.119] has quit [Changing host] 13:46 -!- JohnLewis [~johnlewis@wikimedia/John-F-Lewis] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:46 -!- sdamashek [~2017sdama@ltsp2.csl.tjhsst.edu] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:46 < MJ94> Ironholds: submitted, thanks 13:46 -!- sdamashek is now known as Guest55713 13:47 -!- Ignatzmice [4b451dd7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.69.29.215] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:48 -!- JoFo [~Jean-Fran@host-213-213-224-210.brutele.be] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:49 -!- Guest55713 [~2017sdama@ltsp2.csl.tjhsst.edu] has quit [Client Quit] 13:49 -!- sdamashe1 [~2017sdama@ltsp2.csl.tjhsst.edu] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:49 -!- sdamashe1 [~2017sdama@ltsp2.csl.tjhsst.edu] has quit [Client Quit] 13:49 -!- southpark [~chatzilla@e179047232.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0.1/20130409194949]] 13:49 -!- Vacation9_ [~Vacation9@pool-173-73-80-87.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:50 -!- Chonga [~androirc@201.220.233.197] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:50 -!- Vacation9_ is now known as sdamashek_ 13:50 -!- Chonga is now known as Yassury 13:50 -!- sdamashek_ [~Vacation9@pool-173-73-80-87.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 13:50 -!- sdamashek_ [~Vacation9@wikipedia/Vacation9] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:50 -!- JoFo [~Jean-Fran@host-213-213-224-210.brutele.be] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:52 -!- sdamashek_ is now known as sdamashek 13:53 -!- ihaveamac [~ihaveamac@unaffiliated/ihaveamac] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:53 -!- Yassury is now known as Carly 13:53 -!- Carly [~androirc@201.220.233.197] has quit [Changing host] 13:53 -!- Carly [~androirc@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:53 -!- ihaveamac [~ihaveamac@unaffiliated/ihaveamac] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:53 -!- M132T003C [~MTC@wikimedia/MTC] has quit [Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~] 13:53 -!- Guest68402 is now known as Olipro 13:53 -!- Olipro [~Olipro@d.e.r.p.6.a.1.0.d.d.0.7.2.0.1.0.a.2.ip6.arpa] has quit [Changing host] 13:53 -!- Olipro [~Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.21for7.olipro] has joined #wikipedia-en 13:54 -!- JoFo [~Jean-Fran@host-213-213-224-210.brutele.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:57 -!- ikonia [~irc@unaffiliated/ikonia] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:58 -!- Carly [~androirc@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has left #wikipedia-en ["AndroIRC"] 14:00 -!- ikonia [~irc@unaffiliated/ikonia] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:01 -!- GorillaWarfare [~GorillaWa@wikipedia/GorillaWarfare] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:02 -!- Cncmaster [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Cncmaster] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0.1/20130409194949]] 14:03 < Qcoder00> Hi BetaCoommand... 14:03 < Qcoder00> Did you get my query> 14:03 < Qcoder00> ? 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14:27 -!- SigmaWP [~coalball@Wikipedia/Lowercase-Sigma] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:28 -!- Chongo is now known as Pandashan 14:29 -!- YE [~chatzilla@ip70-180-214-180.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:30 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:30 -!- lahwran is now known as lahwran_ 14:30 -!- lahwran_ is now known as lahwran 14:31 -!- Bronze [~Mark@unaffiliated/bronze] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:31 -!- Carly [~androirc@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:32 < Bazinga> Betacommand: n 14:32 < Bazinga> o 14:32 < Bronze> p 14:32 < Bronze> e 14:32 < Carly> ? 14:33 < Bronze> timing is everything.... 14:33 -!- edward` is now known as edward 14:34 -!- Guest74038 is now known as Teresa_mexicana 14:34 -!- Carly is now known as Mexican 14:35 < Bronze> I am using a chrome browser plugin for adding references to articles, but My "i-am-a-moran-pill" keeps kicking in and the format keeps getting screwed up. 14:35 -!- Mexican is now known as Juana 14:36 < Bronze> does anyone have a suggestion for a robust plug-in or other tool that can be used for easily adding references to articles? 14:36 -!- Juana [~androirc@pdpc/supporter/student/carly] has left #wikipedia-en ["AndroIRC"] 14:36 -!- Elduen [~elduen@unaffiliated/andorin] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:36 -!- Teresa_mexicana is now known as Ositopooh 14:36 < Bronze> The one I am using right now is called "proveit". I can't really criticize it, because I think the problem is operator error. 14:36 < NotASpy> I use Magnus's tool for references. 14:37 * Bronze wishes he could get a hold of that operator error guy.... 14:37 < Bronze> NotASpy: what is that? 14:37 -!- IDoH [~IDoH@wikipedia/I-dream-of-horses] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:37 < IDoH> Hi 14:37 < NotASpy> http://toolserver.org/~magnus/makeref.php 14:37 < NotASpy> old fashioned but it works well. 14:37 < Bronze> NotASpy: thank you Sir. (Or whatever gender specific honorific is appropriate!) 14:38 < NotASpy> Sir will do nicely. 14:38 < Bronze> yes Sire! 14:38 < Bronze> (Dang typos) 14:39 < Bronze> IDoH: what's up? 14:39 < IDoH> Nothing much, yourself? 14:39 < Sarcasm> Anybody have experience writing reception sections? 14:39 < IDoH> Just on the mend from a stomach flu 14:40 < Qcoder00> notaSpy; You are male or female? 14:40 < NotASpy> Qcoder00: Male. 14:40 * IDoH is female, for the record. 14:40 < Qcoder00> IDoH: And in real life? 14:40 < Qcoder00> XD 14:40 < IDoH> Female. 14:40 < IDoH> :-/ 14:41 < Qcoder00> "I say Say, What's a grecian urn? A Grecian urn you ask.... Considerably less than a year ago!" 14:41 < Bronze> Sarcasm: what is a "reception section" 14:41 < Bronze> Qcoder00: old but almost timely and topical :-D 14:42 < Qcoder00> Bronze : Variants of that one exist sine at least the late 1940's ;) 14:42 < Maple__> ""Headlines & Global News See realtime coverage NASA Study Forecasts Global Warming to Trigger Global Rainfall and Draught"" 14:42 < Qcoder00> *since 14:42 < Bronze> Qcoder00: if I recall correctly, that's from the age of Rodney Dangerfield, Milt Burrell, Bob Hope and similar. 14:42 < Maple__> Draught? 14:42 < Bronze> Drought 14:42 < Bronze> a draught is a drink. 14:42 < Sarcasm> reception sections traditionally discuss reviews of a subject 14:42 < Qcoder00> Bronze: Bob Hope is slightly later than 40's but... 14:43 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@wikipedia/MBisanz] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:43 < Bronze> Qcoder00: yeah he had a long career, he was still active in the 80s and even part of the 90s. Specifying the era of Bob Hope is almost the equivalent of not saying anything! ;-) It's almost too general :) 14:43 < Bronze> Sarcasm: thank you, I had not run into the term before. 14:44 -!- peachey|laptop__ [~p858snake@unaffiliated/p858snake] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:44 < Qcoder00> "Bob Hope was so old , they were wondering if he had Lugosi as a drinking buddy..!" 14:44 < SigmaWP> jorm: Echo needs to ignore minor bot edits to talk pages 14:44 < SigmaWP> Wait 14:44 < Sarcasm> I'm trying to decide whether to just dump six or seven different quotes about the car I'm writing about 14:44 < SigmaWP> Oh 14:44 < Bronze> Qcoder00: we could look at the career of spongeBob Hope... 14:44 < Ironholds> SigmaWP: this is both known and in bugzilla. 14:44 < SigmaWP> Wrong wiki 14:44 < Sarcasm> and call it a day 14:44 * SigmaWP pat pats Ironholds 14:45 < Bronze> Qcoder00: I remember watching Bob Hope's movies when I was a kid. When they were in black and white! 14:45 < Qcoder00> Bronze: Hmmm .. I never knwo what level to pitch at... Some people get clever stuff and others ... 14:45 < Bronze> my cleverness level varies with my distance to my last cup of coffee..... 14:45 < Bronze> Inversely of course 14:47 -!- Jetro [~UserNick@53.211.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 14:48 -!- p858snake|l_ [~p858snake@unaffiliated/p858snake] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:50 -!- Bendersgame [~chatzilla@24.42.200.235] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:50 -!- Bendersgame [~chatzilla@24.42.200.235] has quit [Changing host] 14:50 -!- Bendersgame [~chatzilla@wikipedia/LuciferTiger] has joined #wikipedia-en 14:53 -!- Pine [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Pine] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0.1/20130409194949]] 14:56 -!- rr0 [~rr0@wikipedia/ruslik0] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:02 -!- Pandashan [kvirc@unaffiliated/bradford] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:02 < SigmaWP> S... 15:02 < SigmaWP> So... 15:02 < SigmaWP> Who here isn't tired of coal balls yet? 15:03 < IDoH> What are coal balls? 15:03 < IDoH> You mean, like polandball and stuff? 15:05 < mareklug> http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/about-us/news/485 15:05 < IRWolfie-> IDoH: no, an article Sigma wrote 15:05 < IDoH> Oh, I see. 15:06 < mareklug> 5/5/13 5:03:12.756 PM spindump[27315]: Safari [24342] unable to symbolicate <-- anyone else ever had trouble symolicating? what kind of a fucking activity is that? 15:06 < IRWolfie-> It featured in his RFA 15:07 < IRWolfie-> mareklug: https://help.apphance.com/library-installation/ios/symbolication 15:08 < IRWolfie-> appears to be the process of trying to put the symbols which were stripped out back into an executable 15:09 -!- pakaran [~pakaran@wikipedia/pakaran] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:10 -!- Seahorse [~Seahorse@wikipedia/Seahorseruler] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:10 < mareklug> funny that it should apply to Safari running on a desktop, i.e., not iOS 15:10 < mareklug> I just spied this out in my console log, after the trippy thing swelled up to 6 gig plus another 6 gig virtual. 15:10 < IRWolfie-> :| 15:11 < mareklug> maybe it could not symbolicate because it grew too fat, not because its symbols were removed :) 15:12 -!- Olipro [~Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.21for7.olipro] has quit [Quit: Don't flap your BGP at me sonny] 15:12 -!- harej [~quassel@66-44-29-73.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:12 -!- harej [~quassel@66-44-29-73.c3-0.129-ubr1.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Changing host] 15:12 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:13 -!- kelapstick [ca83e93b@wikipedia/Kelapstick] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:14 < Bazinga> mareklug: or you could switch to chrome 15:14 < Bazinga> :-) 15:14 < mareklug> I have Chrome, but why would I switch to it? 15:15 < Bazinga> chrome doesn't symolicate and blow up your mac. 15:15 < IRWolfie-> everyone knows firefox is where it's at 15:16 < mareklug> 5/5/13 12:43:20.732 PM com.apple.launchd[1]: (com.apple.coresymbolicationd[24403]) Exited: Killed: 9 <-- maybe that has something to do with it? 15:17 -!- Fluff|away is now known as Fluffernutter 15:17 < Bazinga> IRWolfie-: we kind of disproved that earlier today... 15:17 < mareklug> I will log out and log back in, just to get my deamons straight. :) 15:17 < IRWolfie-> they have a symbolication daemon? 15:17 < Bazinga> a complex .svg crashed/froze (can't remember) the two FF users 15:18 < IRWolfie-> seems a bit pointless 15:18 < IRWolfie-> mareklug: maybe it switched on for the purposes of debugging the memory leak? 15:18 -!- mareklug [~mareklug@wikipedia/mareklug] has quit [] 15:18 -!- tucoxn [~tucoxn@countervandalism/tucoxn] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:19 < NotASpy> mareklug: most drivers will only have to refuel 10 times a year. <-- now that is attractive. I just can't understand why you would only make the super low fuel consumption vehicle as fuel efficient as possible. 15:19 < Computron_> Does anyone know Norwegian? 15:20 < NotASpy> Why isn't the Golf GTi fitted with drag reducing body panels and things too, even on a 155mph or whatever fire breathing car, it would be nice to get an extra mpg or two when not blasting around the back roads having fun. 15:22 -!- mareklug [~mareklug@wikipedia/mareklug] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:22 -!- Olipro [~Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.21for7.olipro] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:22 < IDoH> mareklug: http://youtu.be/nn2FB1P_Mn8 15:23 < mareklug> IRWolfie- so you think it is smart enough to think it has a memory leak and try to debug it? 15:25 -!- pakaran [~pakaran@wikipedia/pakaran] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:26 < IRWolfie-> mareklug: It's possible that it encountered an error and needs the symbols for a useful debug dump? 15:27 < IRWolfie-> (to show the call stack names or whatever) 15:28 -!- Steven_Zhang_ [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:28 < SigmaWP> hi Steven_Zhang 15:28 < SigmaWP> hi Steven_Zhang_ 15:30 -!- Guerillero [~Gueriller@wikipedia/Guerillero] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:32 < SigmaWP> Are we allowed to edit archived peer reviews that haven't had any reviews? 15:33 < Bazinga> SigmaWP: If it's useful... then yes. 15:34 < SigmaWP> If we want to review it, I mean 15:34 < Bazinga> If you're helping the authors then ofc. 15:34 < SigmaWP> ah 15:34 < SigmaWP> good 15:34 < Bazinga> if you're causing more harm than good then no. 15:35 < SigmaWP> Someone do https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Peer_review/Coal_ball/archive2 please 15:35 < SigmaWP> ;-; 15:35 < Bazinga> SigmaWP: Maybe, if you find someone to delete https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1024px-Chord_chart.svg 15:36 < Qcoder00> Betacommand: Did you get my e-mail? 15:36 < Bazinga> Sigma,,, is this you IRL? http://puu.sh/2NCyE.png 15:37 -!- MrFish2 is now known as Bsadowski1 15:37 -!- sDrewth [~billinghu@wikisource/billinghurst] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:38 -!- sDrewth [~billinghu@wikisource/billinghurst] has left #wikipedia-en [] 15:38 -!- Steven_Zhang_ [~Steven_Zh@wikimedia/Steven-Zhang] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi] 15:39 -!- foks|mobil [~foks@host86-167-255-210.range86-167.btcentralplus.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:39 -!- foks|mobil is now known as Guest91612 15:39 -!- Guest91612 [~foks@host86-167-255-210.range86-167.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Client Quit] 15:43 -!- NotASpy [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Heligoland] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:46 < Steven_Zhang> hi 15:46 < Sarcasm> I reaaaaaaaaaaaaally can't make myself finish this article 15:46 < Sarcasm> It's appalling 15:48 < legoktm> [05:36:53 PM] <Bazinga> Sigma,,, is this you IRL? http://puu.sh/2NCyE.png <-- Yes, I can verify that is what he looks like. 15:49 < Bazinga> that's what i thought 15:50 -!- Jeske_Couriano [~chatzilla@50-46-212-82.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:50 -!- Jeske_Couriano [~chatzilla@50-46-212-82.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has quit [Changing host] 15:50 -!- Jeske_Couriano [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/jeske-couriano/x-0000001] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:52 -!- Sky2042_afk is now known as Sky2042 15:54 -!- foks [~sup@host86-167-255-210.range86-167.btcentralplus.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:54 -!- foks [~sup@host86-167-255-210.range86-167.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Changing host] 15:54 -!- foks [~sup@wikipedia/fox] has joined #wikipedia-en 15:54 < ToAruShiroiNeko> legoktm I thought Sigma was an AI implementation 15:54 < ToAruShiroiNeko> my world collapsed 15:57 -!- Jeske_Couriano [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/jeske-couriano/x-0000001] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0.1/20130409194949]] 16:01 < eeekster> AI? 16:02 -!- JoFo [~Jean-Fran@host-213-213-224-210.brutele.be] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:04 -!- rr0 [~rr0@wikipedia/ruslik0] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:06 -!- Olipro [~Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.21for7.olipro] has quit [Quit: Don't flap your BGP at me sonny] 16:08 < Bazinga> ToAruShiroiNeko: you know how he calls himself lowercase sigma... 16:08 < Bazinga> his username is an uppercase sigma 16:08 < Bazinga> so it's like, wtf SigmaWP 16:09 -!- nuenfly [~nuenfly@ahrasyl.no-ip.org] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.0] 16:09 < Bazinga> mareklug: to be fair, if safari has "close all other tabs" "close tabs to the right" I like that in chrome 16:09 -!- MatmaRex_ [~MatmaRex@178-37-101-47.adsl.inetia.pl] has quit [Quit: ~ Miranda] 16:12 -!- mutley89_ [~mutley89@host86-143-79-42.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:15 -!- sdamashek [~Vacation9@pool-173-73-80-87.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:15 -!- sdamashek [~Vacation9@pool-173-73-80-87.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 16:15 -!- sdamashek [~Vacation9@wikipedia/Vacation9] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:16 -!- mutley89 [~mutley89@host86-150-204-63.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:17 -!- Bendersgame [~chatzilla@wikipedia/LuciferTiger] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:17 -!- Olipro [~Olipro@d.e.r.p.6.a.1.0.d.d.0.7.2.0.1.0.a.2.ip6.arpa] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:17 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@c-69-255-116-4.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:17 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@c-69-255-116-4.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 16:17 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@wikipedia/MBisanz] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:17 -!- Olipro is now known as Guest36435 16:18 -!- Freudian|Sleep [~chatzilla@wikipedia/LuciferTiger] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:19 -!- Reedy_ [~quassel@2a01:348:6:8664:fdeb:c326:ea20:8b29] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:19 -!- Reedy_ [~quassel@2a01:348:6:8664:fdeb:c326:ea20:8b29] has quit [Changing host] 16:19 -!- Reedy_ [~quassel@wikimedia/pdpc.active.reedy] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:19 -!- lbft [~lbft@2605:6400:1:fed5:22:2e7c:e883:4138] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:19 -!- Catie [~Kernel@wikiHow/KernelPone] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:19 -!- Spitfire [spitfire@wikipedia/spitfire] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:19 -!- Reedy [~quassel@wikimedia/pdpc.active.reedy] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:19 -!- MJ94 [mj94@wikimedia/mj94] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:21 -!- Catie [~Kernel@wikiHow/KernelPone] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:21 -!- Spitfire [spitfire@2a01:7e00::1d:10] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:21 -!- Spitfire [spitfire@2a01:7e00::1d:10] has quit [Changing host] 16:21 -!- Spitfire [spitfire@wikipedia/spitfire] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:21 -!- MJ94 [mj94@wikimedia/mj94] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:21 -!- JohnLewis [~johnlewis@wikimedia/John-F-Lewis] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:21 -!- nonsenseferret [~nonsensef@wikipedia/nonsenseferret] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:22 -!- Freudian|Sleep is now known as Bendersgame 16:22 -!- JoFo [~Jean-Fran@host-213-213-224-210.brutele.be] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:23 < nonsenseferret> any admins around to look at a bit of vandalism? 16:23 -!- lbft [~lbft@199.195.249.177] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:24 -!- Guest36435 is now known as Olipro 16:24 -!- Olipro [~Olipro@d.e.r.p.6.a.1.0.d.d.0.7.2.0.1.0.a.2.ip6.arpa] has quit [Changing host] 16:24 -!- Olipro [~Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.21for7.olipro] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:25 -!- JoFo [~Jean-Fran@host-213-213-224-210.brutele.be] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:26 -!- Guerillero [~Gueriller@wikipedia/Guerillero] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:28 < Bazinga> nonsenseferret: not an admin but might be able to help 16:28 < Bazinga> Link me up 16:32 < mattbuck> indeed 16:33 -!- Pandashan [~Instantbi@unaffiliated/bradford] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:43 < SigmaWP> mattbuck: can you write good articles? 16:44 < mattbuck> I have 5 or 6 GAs 16:44 < SigmaWP> Good 16:44 < SigmaWP> The coal balls need a peer review 16:44 < MJ94> Is anyone in here fluent in Spanish? 16:44 < SigmaWP> I can't think of any way to improve them 16:44 < SigmaWP> MJ94: Pandashan 16:44 -!- nonsenseferret [~nonsensef@wikipedia/nonsenseferret] has quit [Quit: away] 16:44 < Sky2042> SigmaWP: My balls need a peer review too. 16:44 < Sky2042> *cough* 16:44 < Sky2042> (Couldn't help myself.) 16:45 < Pandashan> Hola MJ94 16:45 < MJ94> Hey Pandashan - PM? 16:45 * IDoH peers suspiciously at Sky2042. 16:45 < Pandashan> ok 16:45 < Sky2042> IDoH: A peer preferably of the female persuasion. 16:45 < Sky2042> :D 16:45 < IDoH> No thank you! 16:45 < Pandashan> :D 16:46 -!- lahwran is now known as lahwran_ 16:46 -!- lahwran_ is now known as lahwran 16:46 * mattbuck reviews Sky2042's balls 16:46 -!- lahwran is now known as lauren 16:46 -!- lauren is now known as lahwran 16:46 -!- Ryan_Vesey [a57be978@wikipedia/Ryan-Vesey] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:47 -!- Swob [~Soap@wikipedia/soap] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:47 -!- GorillaWarfare [~GorillaWa@wikipedia/GorillaWarfare] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC with a difference] 16:49 * MBisanz pokes legoktm 16:50 < legoktm> yeouch! 16:50 < MBisanz> please trigger my talk page so I can see this new test gadget 16:50 < legoktm> lol 16:50 < Swob> ok 16:50 < MBisanz> thanks 16:50 < legoktm> done 16:50 -!- GorillaWarfare [~molly@wikipedia/GorillaWarfare] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:51 < Swob> hi molly 16:53 -!- slkdkghkjf [~n@27-32-195-47.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:53 < mareklug> we have a molly? 16:54 < Bazinga> mareklug: she got popped 16:54 < mareklug> hmm? 16:55 -!- ragesoss_ [~quassel@pool-74-98-210-132.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:55 -!- mutley89_ [~mutley89@host86-143-79-42.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:56 < Swob> makes me think of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUHETDR4N7A 16:57 -!- Pandashan [~Instantbi@unaffiliated/bradford] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:57 -!- mutley89 [~mutley89@host86-143-79-42.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 16:58 -!- JoFo [~Jean-Fran@host-213-213-224-210.brutele.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:58 < MBisanz> legoktm i like it 16:58 < mareklug> Billy lick a Molly, rather 17:00 < legoktm> MBisanz: Echo? Or are you using a gadget to get OBOD back? 17:00 < MBisanz> legoktm: I'm using the new test gadget with the red popup 17:01 -!- JoFo [~Jean-Fran@host-213-213-224-210.brutele.be] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:01 < legoktm> Er, that's not a gadget. It's an extension called Echo 17:03 * jorm yawns. 17:03 < Bazinga> hey jorm 17:04 < mareklug> Swob hey, I have another Polish song for you that you mighy like, Maria Peszrk, "Ładne słowa to" (Pretty worsd are these:) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzUb1bevjTY 17:14 -!- lukas23 is now known as lukas|away 17:14 -!- Qcoder00 [~chatzilla@gfarlie-adsl.demon.co.uk] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0.1/20130409194949]] 17:20 -!- Aranda56 [~chatzilla@wikimedia/secret] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:20 -!- JW|Away is now known as Jake_Wartenberg 17:22 < Swob> pretty colors 17:23 < Swob> Im not sure that's even a song, though 17:23 < Swob> it's just a woman chanting with some musical accompaniments in the background 17:24 < Swob> i think Im only ever gonna like that one song from last year 17:25 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:25 -!- nonsenseferret [~nonsensef@wikipedia/nonsenseferret] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:29 < Swob> ooh another lawsuit 17:29 < IDoH> Who vs. who? 17:30 < Swob> before anyone calls me out for spreading drama and gossip, keep in mind that this is on ANI and anyone who's interested in such things has probably already seen it 17:30 * nonsenseferret thanks Ironholds 17:31 < Swob> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#CACook7_threat_of_legal_action 17:34 -!- TheChance [~thechance@c-76-115-162-246.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:40 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@c-98-235-185-58.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:40 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@c-98-235-185-58.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 17:40 -!- IShadowed [~IShadowed@wikimedia/IShadowed] has joined #wikipedia-en 17:43 < legoktm> http://i.imgur.com/pMyj41q.jpg 17:46 -!- foks [~sup@wikipedia/fox] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:47 < Ironholds> nonsenseferret: for what? 17:48 < nonsenseferret> Ironholds, you actioned issue I raised at ANI 17:54 < SigmaWP> ENLIST 17:54 < SigmaWP> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Peer_review/Coal_ball/archive2 17:55 < Ironholds> nonsenseferret: unrelated, but cool :) 17:56 < Bazinga> nonsenseferret: lol I told you 17:56 -!- Olipro [~Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.21for7.olipro] has quit [Quit: Don't flap your BGP at me sonny] 17:57 -!- lbft [~lbft@199.195.249.177] has left #wikipedia-en [] 17:57 < nonsenseferret> Bazinga, ahh i opted for the normal route rather than pinging - i didn't realise you were going to lol 18:02 -!- Extreme7 [~extreme@ool-4357c4f7.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:03 -!- nas is now known as zz_nas 18:03 -!- zz_nas is now known as nas 18:04 -!- Olipro [~Olipro@d.e.r.p.6.a.1.0.d.d.0.7.2.0.1.0.a.2.ip6.arpa] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:04 -!- Olipro is now known as Guest97176 18:05 -!- LtNOWIS [~Simon@pool-173-66-20-178.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:09 -!- Guest97176 [~Olipro@d.e.r.p.6.a.1.0.d.d.0.7.2.0.1.0.a.2.ip6.arpa] has quit [Changing host] 18:09 -!- Guest97176 [~Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.21for7.olipro] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:10 -!- Fluffernutter is now known as Fluff|away 18:10 < mattbuck> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oSCX78-8-q0 18:11 < mattbuck> a movie made of atoms 18:11 < SigmaWP> mattbuck: Please 18:11 < SigmaWP> My balls need a review 18:11 < Bazinga> SigmaWP: they're depleted for no reason. 18:13 -!- nas is now known as zz_nas 18:19 < MJ94> SigmaWP: 0_O 18:20 -!- Guest97176 [~Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.21for7.olipro] has quit [Quit: Don't flap your BGP at me sonny] 18:20 -!- YE is now known as YE|AFK 18:24 -!- ihaveamac [~ihaveamac@unaffiliated/ihaveamac] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:25 -!- AzaToth [~azatoth@wikipedia/AzaToth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:30 -!- Olipro [~Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.21for7.olipro] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:30 -!- Hahc21 [~Hahc21@wikipedia/Hahc21] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:32 -!- rr0 [~rr0@wikipedia/ruslik0] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:32 -!- Olipro [~Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.21for7.olipro] has quit [Excess Flood] 18:34 -!- Olipro [~Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.21for7.olipro] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:34 -!- GorillaWarfare [~molly@wikipedia/GorillaWarfare] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:36 -!- Jeske_Couriano [~chatzilla@50-46-212-82.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:36 -!- Jeske_Couriano [~chatzilla@50-46-212-82.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has quit [Changing host] 18:36 -!- Jeske_Couriano [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/jeske-couriano/x-0000001] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:42 -!- LtNOWIS [~Simon@pool-173-66-20-178.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:46 -!- Jasper_Deng is now known as Jasper_Deng_away 18:46 -!- Hahc21 is now known as Hahc21|Away 18:49 < pion> Ironholds: you be blocking :P 18:49 < Ironholds> yup. and? 18:50 < pion> I still don't get that person's issue... They are suing because we won't have a redirect to their person, and instead make a disambiguation page? 18:50 < Swob> Im not sure 18:50 < Swob> I know at one point he wanted the WMF to refund his donations 18:50 < pion> I remember dealing with him a bit 18:50 < pion> heh, donation != loan 18:50 < Swob> no, Im pretty sure the WMF will refund donations 18:51 < pion> he can suck my booty if he doesn't like how we operate. Wikipedia is a private entity. 18:51 < Swob> there was some other issue 18:51 -!- TParis [~TParis@cpe-24-243-23-129.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:51 -!- TParis [~TParis@cpe-24-243-23-129.satx.res.rr.com] has quit [Changing host] 18:51 -!- TParis [~TParis@wikipedia/TParis] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:51 < Swob> he might not have donated in his name, for example, so there's no way to trace it back to him 18:51 < pion> Swob: he's trying to make someone he's probably related to more visible by having anything "John C Cook" related go to the page. 18:51 < pion> John C. Cook, John c Cook, etc. 18:51 -!- ragesoss_ [~quassel@pool-74-98-210-132.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:52 -!- Sky2042 [~Sky2042@wikipedia/Izno] has quit [Quit: Good night, and good luck.] 18:52 < Swob> and using the fact that he's given money to the Foundation to win the argument when all else breaks down? 18:52 < IDoH> Oh, the Wikilove script is back. :-) 18:52 < Jeske_Couriano> Swob) wut 18:52 < pion> Swob: yep. 18:53 < pion> Apparently "I donated to you" means "you who aren't related to the entity I gave money to must do my bidding or I'll subpoena you" 18:53 < Jeske_Couriano> Again, wut 18:53 < Jeske_Couriano> Who's the crank of the week? 18:54 < Swob> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#CACook7_threat_of_legal_action 18:54 < pion> A subpoena against the WMF for "all editors involved" will get shot down. 18:54 < IDoH> Jeske_Couriano: Someone possibly related to John C. Cook 18:54 < IDoH> Yeah, I mean, I could've edited that page. How would I know? 18:54 < Swob> he is related, and hasnt tried to hide that, I think it just got lost in the mess 18:55 -!- BewareofDoug [~Doug__@wikipedia/Doug] has left #wikipedia-en [] 18:55 < pion> Here's the deal, he tried to make us do his bidding. 18:55 < pion> He didn't like that we wouldn't, so he now brings in money donationss. 18:55 < pion> We still don't do it, and he's blocked for disruption. 18:56 < pion> He then thinks he can sue to get things done, when he has absolutely 0 legal basis for a lawsuit. 18:56 < pion> "they blocked me" - not a legal basis. 18:56 < pion> "i donated to them" - not a legal basis. 18:56 < Jeske_Couriano> No lawyer in the land will take it. 18:56 < pion> "they won't do what I say" - not a legal basis. 18:56 < Jeske_Couriano> It's a frivolous lawsuit. 18:56 < pion> Oh, trust me Jeske_Couriano, one will take the case and his money. 18:56 < Swob> ah yeah 18:57 < Jeske_Couriano> pion) A judge will laugh it out of court and fine the attorney and his client. 18:57 < pion> A lawyer can make it *just* unfrivolous enough to make them unliable for bringing a frivolous lawsuit. 18:57 < Jeske_Couriano> pion) No they can't. 18:57 < Swob> he might be a lawyer himself 18:57 < pion> Jeske_Couriano: It's been done before. 18:57 < pion> would he get 2x fined then? 18:57 -!- Oskr220 [~osk@pc-161-8-86-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:58 < Jeske_Couriano> And even if he did, Popehat would likely get involved. 18:58 < Oskr220> hi guys in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tan.half.svg where it says a+b should say (a+b)/2 18:58 < Oskr220> I cannot overwrite this file. 18:59 < Swob> yeah 18:59 < Swob> CACook7 is the son of the guy whose page he created 18:59 < Jeske_Couriano> Us refusing to kowtow to him is as much protected speech as us doing as he asks. 18:59 -!- Adrianzo [~adrian_ca@186.94.239.157] has joined #wikipedia-en 18:59 < Swob> can you draw SVG files, Oskr200? 18:59 < Oskr220> yes 19:00 < Jeske_Couriano> He gets past where the judge laughs it out of court, the Popehat Signal will go up seeking pro bono assistance to any editors he sues. 19:00 < pion> um 19:00 < pion> Swob: there's more issues than that 19:00 < pion> that whole thing looks wrong than me. 19:00 < pion> the angle marked as "a+b" is most certainly not a+b 19:00 < Jeske_Couriano> pion) Note that I said *editors*. 19:01 < Oskr220> thai is what i said 19:01 < Jeske_Couriano> Not the Foundation itself. Popehat Signal wouldn't go up for them. 19:01 < pion> Oskr220: right. 19:01 < pion> it's not (a+b)/2 either 19:02 < pion> (a+b)/2 would implly it's the average of the outside angle and the furthest inside angle of that parallelogram. 19:02 < pion> It's not that average, nowhere close. 19:03 < nonsenseferret> hey i'm getting sued 19:03 < nonsenseferret> erm not 19:03 < pion> nonsenseferret: erm, how? 19:03 < pion> from the John issue? 19:03 < nonsenseferret> yes just joking 19:04 < pion> Oskr220: I can't find anything in that image that makes any mathematical sense. 19:04 < Oskr220> http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/113451/show-that-tan-3x-frac-sin-x-sin-3x-sin-5x-cos-x-cos-3x-cos-5 19:04 < pion> nonsenseferret: Don't worry, I got subpoenaed over the Neumont University thing. A judge threw that out as way too big. 19:04 < Oskr220> that explains the identity 19:04 < Oskr220> Swob: What do I have to do to edit the file? 19:05 < pion> Oskr220: That's missing the 2*()*cos(a+b/2) 19:05 < Swob> you should be able to download it and edit it in Inkspace 19:05 < pion> Oskr220: Is it possible you can just redo it all together? 19:06 < Swob> or Adobe Illustrator or some other program 19:06 < Swob> and then re-upload it 19:06 -!- jakr [~jake@pool-71-191-189-239.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:06 -!- jakr [~jake@pool-71-191-189-239.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 19:06 -!- jakr [~jake@unaffiliated/jakr] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:06 < Swob> if you get an error message, then your account is probably too new 19:06 < Swob> an administrator could fix that 19:06 < Oskr220> Ah that is it 19:06 < Swob> i assume this is you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/oskr220 19:06 < Oskr220> I just made it for this reason 19:06 < Oskr220> yes 19:07 < Swob> that image really probably would be better off being on Commons 19:07 < Swob> but for now, if you want to upload a replacement, I can give you the permissions 19:07 < Swob> or you could go to commons.wikimedia.org and upload the replacement with a different filename so that there would be two files 19:08 < Swob> and then change the Wikipedia article to point to the new file 19:08 < Swob> That'd be more steps, but probably better in the long run 19:08 < Swob> Since the person who uploaded the first file might not agree that the new version is better 19:09 < Oskr220> that sounds complicated. Can you do the edit please 19:09 < Swob> i will if you send me the file in an email 19:09 < Oskr220> search and replace 19:09 < Oskr220> ok 19:09 -!- Titoxd [~Titoxd@wikipedia/Titoxd] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:10 < Swob> send it to mage@mainmage.com 19:11 -!- FastLizard4|zZzZ is now known as FastLizard4 19:11 < Oskr220> sent 19:13 < Swob> ok thanks 19:16 -!- tucoxn [~tucoxn@countervandalism/tucoxn] has left #wikipedia-en [] 19:17 -!- ty [ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:18 < Swob> Im trying to decide whether to replace the existing file or have two files 19:18 -!- Avraham [~chatzilla@ool-44c7c210.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:18 -!- Avraham [~chatzilla@ool-44c7c210.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Changing host] 19:18 -!- Avraham [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Avraham] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:18 -!- Avraham [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Avraham] has left #wikipedia-en [] 19:19 < legoktm> Swob: if the error was an accident, i would just upload over 19:19 -!- Adrianzo [~adrian_ca@186.94.239.157] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:19 < legoktm> but if its an intentional change, you should upload a few file 19:19 < Swob> I dont know enough math to tell 19:19 < Swob> even though I took Calc III, it's all hazy now 19:19 < Oskr220> it was a typo 19:19 < Swob> the original uploader seems fairly active, Im sure he can answer 19:23 < Swob> Thanks for pointing out the mistake to us 19:23 < Sarcasm> Anybody know about defaultsort? 19:23 < Oskr220> np 19:23 -!- RTFMPLZ [48b1edd3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.177.237.211] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:24 < Oskr220> how long until the thumbnail in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangent_half-angle_formula gets updated? 19:24 < Swob> Im not sure 19:24 < Swob> that seems to be laggy sometimes 19:25 < Swob> the image will probably be moved over to commons.wikimedia.org eventually anyway 19:25 < Swob> since that way other projects besides the English Wikipedia can use it 19:26 < Bazinga> hello 19:27 -!- RTFMPLZ is now known as r_t_f_m 19:28 < Oskr220> thanks Swob 19:28 < Swob> glad I could help 19:29 < Sarcasm> Yay, GAN! 19:29 * Sarcasm saunters off 19:32 -!- sdamashek [~Vacation9@wikipedia/Vacation9] has quit [Quit: sleep] 19:32 -!- r_t_f_m [48b1edd3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.177.237.211] has left #wikipedia-en [] 19:33 -!- Wizardman [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/wizardman] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:33 -!- ChrisGualtieri [ae3ebae3@wikipedia/ChrisGualtieri] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:37 < ChrisGualtieri> I need advice on dealing with a problem again anyone open? 19:38 -!- KTC [~KTC@wikipedia/KTC] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:41 -!- Ironholds is now known as IH|away 19:43 -!- Hahc21|Away is now known as Hahc21 19:45 < Aranda56> everyone new sports channel #wikipedia-en-sports 19:47 -!- Seahorse [~Seahorse@wikipedia/Seahorseruler] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:49 -!- Keegan [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Keegan] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:49 -!- Seahorse [~Seahorse@wikipedia/Seahorseruler] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:49 -!- MBisanz [~MBisanz@wikipedia/MBisanz] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:50 -!- YE|AFK is now known as YE 19:52 < SigmaWP> Wizardman: hey 19:52 < SigmaWP> How many FAs do you have? 19:53 -!- Jasper_Deng_away is now known as Jasper_Deng 19:53 < Wizardman> enough, heh. 19:54 < Bazinga> Wizardman: SigmaWP needs a ball inspection. 19:54 < SigmaWP> That's right 19:54 < SigmaWP> I'm going to get the balls to FA 19:54 < SigmaWP> And then shoot myself in the coal balls 19:54 < Bazinga> your balls aren't notable... 19:55 < pion> SigmaWP: o.O 19:55 < pion> please don't shoot your balls. 19:55 < pion> I can't imagine that'd feel good. 19:55 < Bazinga> pion: it feels good for him 19:55 < pion> o.o 19:56 < pion> SigmaWP: you kinky 19:57 < MJ94> SigmaWP: still haven't gotten coal balls to fa? 19:57 < SigmaWP> I'm about to! 19:57 < SigmaWP> I hope 19:57 < SigmaWP> I ran out of stuff to add 19:57 < SigmaWP> And nobody cares to look at the peer review ;-; 19:58 < MJ94> SigmaWP: I will 19:58 -!- Cncmaster [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Cncmaster] has joined #wikipedia-en 19:58 < MJ94> But no FAs 19:58 < MJ94> so you hate me 19:58 < MJ94> and i'm useless to you 19:58 * MJ94 sobs 20:00 < Wizardman> so, what's teh article? 20:01 < Cncmaster> Well damn, my admin score is above -100. I never expected it to get above -100, let alone -57. 20:02 < SigmaWP> Wizardman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Peer_review/Coal_ball/archive2 20:02 < Cncmaster> It would be a lot higher if I had any content skill. 20:02 -!- Amqui [~a@d75-152-211-245.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Changing host] 20:02 -!- Amqui [~a@wikimedia/Amqui] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:02 < Wizardman> hm.. that guy's bears neesd a trimmin 20:02 < Wizardman> *beard 20:03 < MJ94> Cncmaster: admin score? 20:04 < Cncmaster> MJ94: you know, the super controversial http://toolserver.org/~snottywong/adminscore.html 20:04 < MJ94> I didn't know. 20:05 < MJ94> Cncmaster: is that new? 20:05 < Cncmaster> I didn't know either until I saw 5 editors arguing over it. 20:05 < Cncmaster> No. 20:06 < Swob> you know what would be even better? 20:06 < Swob> put the current admins on the list so we can say who the worst admins are 20:07 < Jasper_Deng> lol 20:07 < MJ94> Swob: enter your username 20:07 < MJ94> what's your score 20:07 < Swob> oh wait 20:07 < Swob> i was thinking of the list on enwiki 20:07 < Swob> this is just the tool that generates the list 20:07 < MJ94> Cncmaster: wow, loads slowly 20:08 < Cncmaster> MJ94: yeah, it grabs a lot of data 20:08 < Swob> i thjnk that it refuses to score anyone who's currently an admin 20:08 -!- Falcorian [~Falcorian@wikipedia/Falcorian] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:08 < Cncmaster> it does Swob 20:09 < Cncmaster> also anyone who is currently running an RfA 20:09 < Swob> yeah, therefore I cant check myself 20:09 < Swob> unless i desysop myself 20:09 < Swob> Im sure Scotty's thought of that very same idea that I did, and thus prohibited getting scores for admins 20:09 * Wizardman desysops you 20:09 < Wizardman> you got 3 minutes 20:10 < Cncmaster> If I could overcome my apprehension about writing articles, I would have a positive score. 20:10 -!- nonsenseferret [~nonsensef@wikipedia/nonsenseferret] has quit [Quit: away] 20:10 < MJ94> My score is a 244 20:11 < Cncmaster> Or is it that I'm too incompetent to write an article that can survive for more than 2 minutes? 20:11 < Cncmaster> I'll never know. 20:11 < Swob> articles arent everything 20:11 < Swob> we've had a few admins who've never created a single article 20:11 < Cncmaster> They are 75% of an RfA 20:11 * Aranda56 invites people for #wikipedia-en-sports, especially those in any sports wikiprojects 20:11 < MJ94> Minimum monthly edit count (last 12 mo.): 0 -45 20:11 < MJ94> SORRY I ALMOST DIED WIKIPEDIA 20:11 < MJ94> AND COULDN'T EDIT 20:11 < closedmouth> Swob: what?! no way! 20:11 < MJ94> so picky. 20:12 < MJ94> Cncmaster: it yelled at me in bold red. 20:12 < Cncmaster> imo content shouldn't matter at an RfA. 20:12 < MJ94> ^^^ 20:12 < MJ94> well 20:12 < IDoH> I agree, Cncmaster. 20:12 < MJ94> to a point 20:12 < Isarra> Is there any good alcohol that comes in a plastic bottle? 20:13 < Swob> hand sanitizer 20:13 < MJ94> Isarra: Vodka disguised as water? 20:13 < IDoH> Heh heh 20:13 < pion> Isarra: vodka 3 20:13 < pion> <3 20:13 < MJ94> I think I could pass RfA if I just wrote a G or FA. 20:13 < MJ94> Then again, I like making others do my work. 20:14 < Cncmaster> How does article writing affect how you will use the block button? Maybe the deletion button, but still. 20:14 < IDoH> Me too, MJ94. 20:14 < IDoH> Cncmaster: it makes you more well-known, I guess. 20:14 < Amqui> Isarra here they sell rum, vodka, gin, all in plastic bottles 20:15 * Cncmaster opens his CSD log 20:15 < Swob> "improve mouth health with Colgate Total" 20:15 < MJ94> uh 20:16 -!- Oskr220 [~osk@pc-161-8-86-200.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:16 < MJ94> Cncmaster: looking back, my block log probably contributed to my low(ish) score 20:16 < Isarra> Is rum good? 20:17 < Cncmaster> Out of 115 CSD tags, 3 have been unsuccessful. Oh, I totally can't use the deletion button. You have to write 5 FA's to know when and when not to delete. 20:17 < Bazinga> Isarra: not by itself 20:17 < Amqui> Isarra there is different rums 20:18 < Bazinga> I think Jasper_Deng has a few good mixes 20:18 < Amqui> Bazinga yes it is 20:18 < MJ94> Cncmaster: you're practically a nooob 20:18 < MJ94> :P 20:18 < Bazinga> Amqui: mixes are better 20:18 < Amqui> brown rum with a bit of ice ;) 20:18 < pion> Jasper_Deng: is not old enough to drink 20:18 < Jasper_Deng> Bazinga: ? 20:18 -!- rr0 [~rr0@wikipedia/ruslik0] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:18 < pion> Jasper_Deng: is only 20.999 20:18 < Cncmaster> And that was 1.5 years of inactivity. 20:18 < pion> give him another hr and 42 mins 20:18 < Amqui> I drink alcohol straight, it is better for my diet XD 20:18 < Cncmaster> I would be up to a few hundred tags if I had been more active. 20:18 < Bazinga> pion: i don't think your math is right 20:19 * Jasper_Deng doesn't think Bazinga's math is right either 20:19 < Bazinga> Jasper_Deng: Me neither. 20:19 < Bazinga> I'mma ask my teacher tomorrow. 20:19 -!- Oskr220 [~osk@pc-161-8-86-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:21 -!- Bendersgame [~chatzilla@wikipedia/LuciferTiger] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:21 < Isarra> What doesvodka mix well with? 20:21 < pion> Isarra: itself 20:21 < SigmaWP> Someone 20:21 < Isarra> Not a fan. 20:21 < SigmaWP> Please 20:21 < pion> jjust down a bottle of Absolute 20:21 < SigmaWP> Review the coal balls 20:22 < Isarra> o__o 20:22 < pion> SigmaWP: I don't wanna see your balls. 20:22 < Bazinga> pion: http://enwp.org/Prune is a good example 20:22 -!- phuzion [~phuzion@ipv6.irc.teh-server.com] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 20:22 < SigmaWP> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=553723187 20:22 < SigmaWP> What the fuck 20:22 * Isarra hugs SigmaWP. 20:22 -!- LtNOWIS [~Simon@pool-173-66-20-178.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:22 < Cncmaster> Holy shit, my cat just went CRAZY 20:23 < Isarra> I love you guys. 20:23 -!- phuzion [~phuzion@irc.teh-server.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:23 < pion> SigmaWP: if it helps, I odn't like the double cite things 20:23 * Isarra grabs the cat and runs off in search of painkillers. 20:23 < Cncmaster> She got a bag stuck on her head. 20:23 -!- Bendersgame [~chatzilla@wikipedia/LuciferTiger] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:23 < Cncmaster> god damn 20:24 < pion> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Indian_States <-- that's someone's final exam possibly. 20:24 < Bazinga> SigmaWP: it's a school project obviouisly 20:24 < Bazinga> pion: Yeah :-P 20:24 -!- FastLizard4 is now known as FastLizard4|iPad 20:24 < pion> xD 20:26 < Wizardman> if it was a musical i'd be more interested 20:28 < pion> Wizardman: delete and salt United Indian States please. 20:28 < Wizardman> when I'm done reading it :) 20:28 < pion> or iron 20:28 < pion> Wizardman: you can read it AFTER deleting it :3 20:28 < Bazinga> pion: Could you do me a favour? 20:28 < pion> Bazinga: hmm? 20:28 -!- Swob is now known as {soap|bed} 20:29 < Bazinga> Pm 20:29 < Wizardman> gone'd 20:29 < pion> thanks wiz 20:29 < pion> and salt? 20:30 < dtm> why would you guys say that the article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_received_by_U2 did not utilize this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_musician_awards 20:30 < Bazinga> Wizardman: can you do something controversially non-controversial? 20:30 < Bazinga> dtm: U2 is too important. 20:30 < dtm> Bazinga: oic 20:30 < Wizardman> oh crap... 20:30 < Wizardman> someone has to delete the images too 20:30 < pion> Wizardman: YOU DIDN'T SALT IT 20:30 < pion> (that wasn't yelling) 20:31 < Wizardman> did so. was just figuring out the img issue 20:31 < dtm> i wonder if U2's list predated the creation of that template. 20:31 < pion> h ok 20:31 < pion> Wizardman: out of curiousiy, what use created that? 20:31 < Cncmaster> I just ran into the same 14 year old who had already been warned about posting sensitive personal info on their userpage. They did it again. 20:34 < Bazinga> Wizardman: can you do an edit for me plz? 20:34 -!- {soap|bed} [~Soap@wikipedia/soap] has quit [Quit: bed] 20:35 < Wizardman> pion: some new user 20:35 < Wizardman> bazinga: possibly, what? 20:36 < pion> Wizardman: no duh 20:36 < pion> Wizardman: i was wondering WHCIH 20:36 < Wizardman> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ezarour 20:36 < pion> thanks 20:42 -!- ihaveamac [~ihaveamac@unaffiliated/ihaveamac] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:43 < a930913> I got 139. Anybody else care to try? http://www.alexithymia.us/test-alex.html 20:43 -!- TParis [~TParis@wikipedia/TParis] has quit [Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~] 20:44 * Aranda56 promotes again #wikipedia-en-sports :D 20:45 < harej> wow trillian 20:45 -!- Sven_Manguard [~Perhaps@wikipedia/Sven-Manguard] has joined #wikipedia-en 20:45 < Sven_Manguard> what is secret/aranda's IRC name? 20:45 < Sven_Manguard> anyone? 20:45 < legoktm> lol 20:45 < legoktm> tab complete to Aranda 20:46 < legoktm> and then 20:46 < legoktm> you see 20:46 < legoktm> Aranda56 is right here! 20:46 * a930913 waves to legoktm. 20:46 < legoktm> hey a930913 20:46 * Aranda56 stabs Sven_Manguard ;p 20:46 < IH|away> wow, that's weird 20:46 < IH|away> I just ran into a Wikipedian on facebook. 20:47 < legoktm> Hi IH|away 20:47 < IH|away> hey legoktm :) 20:47 -!- IH|away is now known as Ironholds 20:47 < legoktm> I bet I can find you on facebook 20:47 < a930913> legoktm: Take the test ^. I think BAG members should score higher than average :p 20:47 * legoktm isn't a BAG member :P 20:47 < a930913> legoktm: As in members of the channel. 20:47 < legoktm> oh 20:47 < legoktm> lol 20:47 < Sven_Manguard> hey Ironholds 20:48 < IDoH> a930913: I got a score in the 110's on that test. 20:48 < legoktm> > Question 6 Sex as a recreational activity seems kind of pointless. 20:48 < Bazinga> who would answer that 20:49 < Bazinga> as agree 20:49 < legoktm> > Question 13 I prefer doing physical activities with friends rather than discussing each others emotional experiences. 20:49 < legoktm> Does physical activities include sex? 20:49 < Bazinga> Yes. 20:49 < Ironholds> hey Sven_Manguard 20:49 < a930913> That one was a really hard one for me. 20:49 < Bazinga> why should we talk about our emotional experiences when we could just fuck 20:50 < a930913> Because I despise physical activity almost as much as discussing emotions :p 20:51 < Ironholds> 74 20:52 < Sven_Manguard> 74? 20:52 < Ironholds> my score 20:53 < Bazinga> 123 20:53 -!- ty [ty@wikia/vstf/TyA] has quit [Quit: wat] 20:53 < legoktm> 79 20:53 < a930913> legoktm: Really? :o 20:53 * Sven_Manguard has no idea what is going on and just lost about 2/3rds of his internet speed 20:53 -!- jakr [~jake@unaffiliated/jakr] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:53 < Sven_Manguard> legoktm: link to this quiz? 20:54 < legoktm> [10:43:43 PM] <a930913> I got 139. Anybody else care to try? http://www.alexithymia.us/test-alex.html 20:54 < legoktm> a930913: yeah... 20:54 < Isarra> Bazinga: Fucking is an intense emotional experience that can have significant psychological impact. 20:54 -!- Wizardman [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/wizardman] has left #wikipedia-en [] 20:54 < a930913> legoktm: You're not *special* :p 20:55 < Bazinga> Isarra: Not for all people 20:55 < legoktm> Awww 20:55 < Ironholds> ...buahahaha 20:55 < Isarra> Sure, sure. Just excecise. 21:02 < Sven_Manguard> 81 but I left a few questions undecided 21:07 < MJ94> a930913: 66 21:07 < mareklug> what's tjhe benefit of a) taking this test, b) scoring well on it? 21:08 < MJ94> I've got the lowest score so far 21:09 < MJ94> Category: Vicarious Interpretation of Feelings: 11 Points <8 - 9> 21:09 < MJ94> In this category you show high alexithymic traits. 21:09 < MJ94> wtf does that mean 21:09 < MJ94> am i going to die 21:09 < Bazinga> YE. 21:09 < mareklug> Alexithymia is a personality construct characterized by the sub-clinical inability to identify and describe emotions in the self. 21:10 -!- Sven_Manguard [~Perhaps@wikipedia/Sven-Manguard] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0.1/20130409194949]] 21:10 < mareklug> Few people are familiar with the condition known as alexithymia, yet it is not so rare a thing. Alexithymia is condition where a person seems devoid of emo. 21:10 < mareklug> relax MJ94 -- you still have techno, even if you are devoid of emo. 21:11 < Ironholds> 'people who aren't good communicators' is a disease now. 21:11 < MJ94> well considering i'm double majoring in psychology and communications... 21:11 < mareklug> all children are either autistic or obese 21:11 < MJ94> I'd assume I'm good with communicating and emotions.... 21:11 * Cncmaster opens the test 21:11 < IDoH> mareklug: I scored kind of high on that test--like in the 110's. 21:12 < mareklug> so I ask again, what are the benefits of taking this test and of scoring high on it? 21:12 < IDoH> mareklug: Understanding yourself? 21:12 < MJ94> mareklug: high is worse I think 21:12 < IDoH> mareklug: and what MJ94 said. 21:13 < SigmaWP> https://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/28/opinion/sunday/wikipedias-sexism-toward-female-novelists.html?ref=opinion&_r=2& 21:13 < SigmaWP> Is this true? 21:13 < MJ94> well we have more balls here than boobs. 21:13 * MJ94 looks at SigmaWP 21:15 < IDoH> SigmaWP: Yes, it is. There's a category for "American women novelists", but not for "American men novelists", implying, albeit accidentally, that males are the norm. 21:16 < a930913> Ironholds: If it's a disease, you can treat it for money ;) 21:16 < Cncmaster> 129 21:16 < LtNOWIS> Man TAFI really highlights our flaws. 21:16 < LtNOWIS> which I guess is a good thing 21:16 < a930913> I read in the newscientist that 90% of editors are male. 21:16 -!- Oskr220 [~osk@pc-161-8-86-200.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:17 < MJ94> Cncmaster: ouch 21:17 < MJ94> Most Wikipedians score high. 21:17 < MJ94> Why? 21:17 < closedmouth> aspergers 21:17 < MJ94> asparagus 21:17 < a930913> MJ94: Because emotions make markup confusing. 21:18 < a930913> Therefore, those who can navigate the markup best tend to have less emotion. 21:18 < a930913> Survival of the fittest and all that. 21:18 < MJ94> No wonder I suck at programming. 21:19 < mareklug> 83 Points Missing Plug-in Non-alexithymia: You show few to no alexithymic traits. If you are interested in Alexithymia we would be happy to have you as a regular visitor on our pages. 21:19 < mareklug> well, fuck. 21:19 * a930913 beats the emotion out of MJ94, so he can program. 21:19 < mareklug> I am upset they detected I am missing a plug-in. How can I live with myself in the absence of a PLUG-IN? 21:19 < Ironholds> I have good emotions and program! /terribly/ 21:19 < mareklug> WHO WILL PLUG ME? 21:20 < MJ94> Most of the super-good programmers I know lack happiness. 21:20 * IDoH got 119 on the test. 21:20 < MJ94> And the ability to be spontaneous and fun. 21:20 < MJ94> And enjoy being locked in a cubicle alone. 21:20 < mareklug> MJ94 this must explain my lousiness as a programmer 21:20 < IDoH> I have "high alexithemic traits." 21:21 < IDoH> Yeah, programming is something autistic people can, sometimes, do rather easely. 21:21 < MJ94> mareklug: It's because our brains are too active to focus. 21:21 < Ironholds> MJ94: So, they have the ability to be fun, they just define fun differently 21:21 < mareklug> I always thought it was lack of patience to thoroughly master the syntax, but what do I know. 21:21 < IDoH> LOL 21:21 < MJ94> ^ 21:21 < MJ94> that too 21:21 < MJ94> Ironholds: true 21:22 < IDoH> Perhaps you know yourself best, mareklug. 21:22 < Ironholds> So, I never caught the coding bug 21:22 < MJ94> I picture fun as skydiving and public speaking. 21:22 < Ironholds> until I absolutely super-had-to code for a project, at which point I spent eight months hacking away at it for 20 hours a week and suddenly went: wait, I know this. 21:22 < mareklug> at the same time? sort of limits the audience, no? 21:22 < IDoH> What are you talking about, mareklug? 21:22 < MJ94> mareklug: I'd just push them out before me. 21:23 < mareklug> IDoH [23:22:19] <MJ94> I picture fun as skydiving and public speaking. 21:23 < MJ94> also, I lol'd 21:23 < IDoH> LOL 21:25 < MJ94> Ironholds: What can you program in? 21:25 < Ironholds> MJ94: R 21:26 * Ironholds is going to learn Python next. Totally. Just as soon as he stops finding interesting things R can do. 21:26 < mareklug> This reminds me: "[22:21:42] <Isarra> What doesvodka mix well with?" Vodka mizes well with alexithymia 21:26 < MJ94> LOL 21:26 < MJ94> mareklug: dude, you're hilarious 21:27 -!- Cncmaster [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Cncmaster] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0.1/20130409194949]] 21:27 * Isarra eyes mareklug suspiciously. 21:27 < mareklug> I know, right? If there was a hilariousness test, I would be 110% hilary. 21:27 < MJ94> Ironholds: I'm going to learn Python too! 21:27 < MJ94> mareklug: clinton? 21:27 < IDoH> mareklug, you realize that alexithymia is more related to lack of awareness of emotions, and not related to not having any emotions, right? 21:27 < Ironholds> MJ94: what's the rationale? 21:27 < Isarra> Bleah, I'm not sure if I feel sick, if my head hurts, or if I just need more tea. 21:27 < MJ94> Ironholds: regarding? 21:28 < Isarra> ...painkillers. I was getting painkillers. 21:28 < MJ94> Ironholds: ALEXITHYMIA 21:28 < mareklug> IDoH indeed, which is why you need vodka to mix with it. without vodka, you are out of vodka. 21:28 < MJ94> er 21:28 < MJ94> Isarra: : ALEXITHYMIA 21:28 < IDoH> You're weird, mareklug. I like you. 21:28 < mareklug> IDoH and I like you, horsie woman. 21:28 < IDoH> LOL 21:28 < MJ94> mareklug: marry me? 21:28 < MJ94> i know it's sudden 21:29 < mareklug> MJ94 I'd rather marry Isarra 21:29 < MJ94> but we can make it work 21:29 < mareklug> but beggars can't be choosers 21:29 < MJ94> k. 21:29 < IDoH> No, mareklug. You'd rather marry me, and you'd know it. 21:29 < MJ94> no it's over 21:29 < MJ94> OH SNAP LOVE SQUARE 21:29 < IDoH> LOL 21:30 < Ironholds> MJ94: picking Pytrhon 21:30 < mareklug> well, I might well prefer you, IDoH. But both you and Isarra are more compatible for unholy matrimony than MJ94 21:30 < Ironholds> y'all need jesus. 21:30 < Isarra> Are we unholy? 21:30 < Isarra> AGH DAMMIT I spilled the painkillers. 21:31 < SigmaWP> Ironholds: Make sure it's Python 3 21:31 < MJ94> Ironholds: I've heard Python is easy to learn as a first language and actually useful 21:31 < SigmaWP> :) 21:31 < MJ94> Isarra: great. 21:31 < Ironholds> SigmaWP: I have. It's infuriating. 21:31 < mareklug> we will play Suzanne by Leonard Cohen. there's Jesus in tehre. 21:31 < SigmaWP> whaat 21:31 < SigmaWP> how? 21:31 < Ironholds> MJ94: it's pretty useful. I can't validate 'easy' because, well, I found it easy but mostly because I had a reference point 21:31 < MJ94> Ironholds: http://learnpythonthehardway.org/ 21:31 < Ironholds> "ah, it handles control structures like R, only [difference]. Ah, lists are the same as in standard ML" 21:31 < Ironholds> MJ94: indeed. An excellent text :) 21:32 < MJ94> My goal in life is to write a Wikipedia bot and an IRC bot. 21:32 < mareklug> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otJY2HvW3Bw Leonard Cohen - Suzanne 21:32 < SigmaWP> MJ94: You need Python 3 for that 21:32 < Olipro> Ruby. 21:32 < SigmaWP> Python 21:32 < MJ94> define that, SigmaWP 21:32 < mareklug> Lisp 21:33 < Olipro> because forced indenting is The Worst. 21:33 < mareklug> pretty printing takes care of indenting 21:33 < SigmaWP> end statements are The Worst™ 21:33 * Isarra throws blue pills at MJ94. 21:33 * IDoH eats raw dough. 21:33 < Ironholds> mareklug: Lisp is terrible. Not as terrible as SML, but terrible. 21:33 < Olipro> git rebase --whitespace=fix 21:33 < Olipro> WHEEEEEEEEEEE 21:33 -!- gForcer [~gForcer@host-254-176-107-208.midco.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:33 < mareklug> Ironholds why is Lisp terrible? for that matter, is Scheme also terrible? 21:33 < Ironholds> no idea, not played with Scheme 21:34 < mareklug> Scheme looks like lisp but is purely functional, lexically scoped, and tail-recursive. everything happens on a stack. it is elegant, clean, and has very understandable semantics, and is great for concurrency. 21:35 < Ironholds> Lisp just seeemed....cluttered. 21:35 < Isarra> (((()))) 21:35 < a930913> Lisp is Lotsa Irrelevant Stupid Parenthesis, no? 21:35 < Ironholds> I mean, don't get me wrong; I appreciate having a lot of stuff in the core version 21:35 < Ironholds> it's actually one of my annoyances at python; everything is a fucking library. 21:35 -!- FastLizard4|iPad is now known as FastLizard4 21:35 < Isarra> Why do drunk people wobble? 21:35 < Ironholds> but there's such a thing as going too far in either direction 21:35 < mareklug> you can clutter away in Common Lisp, or you can write simple elegant code in it. It is very easy to write and maintain and debug very large code bases in Lisp, which is why automakers use it for their design cycle. 21:36 < Olipro> Ruby on the other hand, has Gems! 21:36 < IDoH> Isarra: Because they drank so much, it's affecting their cerebullum. 21:36 < Ironholds> mareklug: I didn't mean the code ;p 21:36 < a930913> Ironholds: Python packages quite well I think. 21:36 < IDoH> And because of that, people with cerebellar disorders often get mistaken for drunk. 21:36 < Ironholds> a930913: different strokes for different folks. The fact that I had to import a package to change my dang working directory irked me. 21:36 < SigmaWP> But it's a builtin 21:37 < SigmaWP> well 21:37 < SigmaWP> stdlib 21:37 < SigmaWP> "builtin" being written in C 21:37 < a930913> Ironholds: You can do that? How? (Yes, that is one of the more annoying parts of python.) 21:37 < mareklug> Isarra are you sure it is people who wobble? I was told that weebles wobble but they don't fall down. 21:37 < SigmaWP> import os; os.chdir("aoeuao") 21:37 < SigmaWP> a930913: ^ 21:37 < Isarra> mareklug: I have no idea. 21:38 < Isarra> IDoH: But the muscles! They know what to do even without the brain. 21:38 < mareklug> Isarra http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weeble 21:38 < Ironholds> a930913: import os 21:38 < a930913> What I don't like in a language is dumb imports. 21:38 < IDoH> Isarra: Er, kind of. I mean, even comatose people have reflexes. 21:38 < Ironholds> os.chdir("path") 21:39 < a930913> Where if I import something such as a banana, the whole rainforest needs to be parsed through ram. 21:39 < Ironholds> a930913: even with import banana from rainforest? 21:40 < SigmaWP> Ironholds: yes 21:40 < Ironholds> Anyway. import os (or import chdir from os), os.chdir("blah"). You have changed your working directory to blah. done. But: the fact that it isn't in the language natively smacks of either (1) a design philosophy faaaar too focused on compartmentalisation or (2) a language simply not build around the things I need to do. 21:40 < Ironholds> SigmaWP: oh dear. 21:40 -!- YE [~chatzilla@ip70-180-214-180.lv.lv.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:40 < Olipro> Ruby: Dir.chdir('newdir') 21:40 < Olipro> Done. 21:40 < a930913> Ironholds: But if we ignore the readability of the code in this case, why can't I just import the rainforest and have a compiler work out what it should really import? 21:41 < Olipro> or if you only want it to be temporary: Dir.chdir('newdir') { |newpath| Dir.pwd #in the new dir } Dir.pwd #old dir 21:41 < Ironholds> a930913: no idea. I didn't build python ;p 21:41 * Isarra tickles IDoH. 21:41 < SigmaWP> http://pyvideo.org/video/1707/how-import-works 21:42 < SigmaWP> For roference 21:42 * IDoH giggles 21:42 < Ironholds> anyway, I should go to sleep; 5:42am 21:42 * IDoH tickles Isarra back 21:42 < Ironholds> but thank you all of you for providing interesting python chat at stupid o'clock :) 21:42 < Isarra> GYEAAAGH! 21:42 * Isarra runs away. 21:42 < Olipro> pfft 21:42 < SigmaWP> night 21:42 < SigmaWP> morning 21:42 < SigmaWP> have a good sleep 21:42 < mareklug> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KaWSOlASWc Lou Reed - Walk on the Wild Side http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYEC4TZsy-Y Lou Reed - Perfect Day 21:42 * IDoH runs after Isarra. 21:42 < Isarra> Agh, crap. My deadline is stupid o'clock. 21:43 * Isarra hides. 21:43 < a930913> Ironholds: Yup, second the motion. Night/morning. 21:43 * IDoH finds Isarra. 21:43 -!- wctaiwan [8c701e84@wikipedia/wctaiwan] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:43 * Ironholds salutes a930913 21:43 * Isarra stares blankly at IDoH. 21:43 * Isarra stares blankly at her mountain dew. 21:43 * IDoH tickles Isarra again! 21:43 < Isarra> EEQAAAGHH. 21:43 < IDoH> Heh heh 21:44 < IDoH> I'll stop now. :-) 21:44 -!- Ironholds is now known as IH|away 21:44 < Isarra> I thank you. 21:44 < SigmaWP> wctaiwan: hi 21:44 < wctaiwan> hello. 21:45 * Isarra hugs wctaiwan. 21:45 -!- techman224 [~techman22@Wikimedia/Techman224] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 21:45 < Isarra> I think I spilled vodka in my mountain dew. This is a travesty. 21:45 * wctaiwan hugs Isarra 21:45 < wctaiwan> ...cripes. 21:45 < Isarra> On the plus side I'm almost out of vodka? 21:46 < harej> you spilled vodka into your mountain dew? 21:46 < Isarra> What would it be like if mediawiki kept a history of folks who visit pages? 21:46 < Isarra> So if harej visited a page on cat pornography, it'd be in the permanent history? 21:47 < wctaiwan> it'll be a horrible violation of privacy 21:47 < mareklug> wctaiwan hi there. You probably know who Blondie was? 21:47 < Isarra> Okay, good. 21:47 < wctaiwan> um, a cartoon character? 21:47 < Isarra> Because this other wiki I'm using does that and it's kind of... creepy. 21:48 -!- Mr-ex777 [~chatzilla@202.82.11.104] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:48 < mareklug> wctaiwan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8O-Qn9QMog Blondie- The tide is high 21:48 -!- gForcer [~gForcer@host-254-176-107-208.midco.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:48 < MJ94> THE TIDE IS HIGH BUT I'M GOING ON 21:49 < MJ94> I'M GONNA BE YOUR NUMBER ONE 21:49 < MJ94> I'M NOT THE KIND OF GIRL 21:49 < MJ94> TO GIVE UP JUUUST LIKE THAT 21:49 < mareklug> holding on, not going on, MJ94 21:49 < MJ94> oh NOoooOoOoOoOoo 21:49 -!- Jeske_Couriano [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/jeske-couriano/x-0000001] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0.1/20130409194949]] 21:49 < wctaiwan> you sound like a banshee, MJ94 21:49 < MJ94> mareklug: that's what I meant 21:49 < MJ94> wctaiwan: you look like one 21:49 < wctaiwan> hah, good one 21:49 < MJ94> so, in comparision, I'm better 21:50 < MJ94> mareklug: atomic kitten, lizzie mcguire 21:50 < MJ94> holla 21:50 < wctaiwan> mareklug: sounds like the kind of song my dad would know. 21:51 -!- gForcer [~gForcer@host-254-176-107-208.midco.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 21:51 < mareklug> wctaiwan it was a world hit. and it has jamaica to it. 21:52 < Aranda56> mareklug #wikipedia-en-sports 21:52 < Aranda56> new channel 21:52 < mareklug> there is meaningful sports going on? hockey maybe 21:53 < Aranda56> on and off, most of the americans went to bed, but it was just spammed on every active sports wikiproject so it should be good discussion 21:53 < mareklug> MJ94 Lizzie's cover is ok, but Blondie's original wins. 21:53 < Isarra> How do you write a user manual for something? 21:54 < Aranda56> and very active, especially once all these people in the football/cricket wikiprojects wake up 21:54 -!- Bazinga [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Addihockey10] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:54 < Aranda56> just check it out, its going to be the official wikiproject sports coordination channel which means yea sports talking 21:55 -!- addihockey10 [~addihocke@wikimedia/Addihockey10] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:55 < mareklug> wctaiwan this is another iconic (world hit) Blondie song: One way or another 21:55 < wctaiwan> it just doesn't sound like my type of music. 21:55 < Aranda56> mareklug discussion of la lega now ;p 21:55 < Isarra> Blondie is fun. 21:56 < kelapstick> Blondie is everyone's type of music 21:56 < Isarra> But yeah, it's defintiely a certain type. 21:56 < mareklug> wctaiwan I am sure some douchebag with a piano has interpretted it. 21:56 < Aranda56> la liga or w.e its called ;p 21:56 < Isarra> Naw, it ain't everyone's. 21:56 < Isarra> Not really mine either. 21:56 < mareklug> Isarra so tell us at last, what is your type of music. 21:57 * IDoH listens to the Police 21:57 < Isarra> I don't know! 21:57 < wctaiwan> mareklug: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GbcEE-q5SU yup. 21:57 * kelapstick peruses his playlist 21:57 < wctaiwan> that said, there's still better piano music to listen to. 21:58 -!- Guerillero [~Gueriller@wikipedia/Guerillero] has joined #wikipedia-en 22:01 < wctaiwan> hah, heard song in some store yesterday, guessed that it was probably Adele. Was not incorrect. 22:02 < kelapstick> she has a pretty distinct voice 22:02 < SuicidalZerg> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/05/05/2329240/former-fbi-agent-all-digital-communications-stored-by-us-govt 22:02 < SuicidalZerg> lol 22:02 -!- Doug_Weller [~Doug_Well@cpc4-mfld14-2-0-cust91.13-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wikipedia-en 22:02 -!- Doug_Weller [~Doug_Well@cpc4-mfld14-2-0-cust91.13-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Changing host] 22:02 -!- Doug_Weller [~Doug_Well@wikipedia/Dougweller] has joined #wikipedia-en 22:02 < wctaiwan> well, the only song of hers I actually recognise is the theme to Skyfall. 22:02 < wctaiwan> but yes, I suppose. 22:02 < mareklug> wctaiwan ok, moving right along. In the 70s there was a band in England with Annie Haslam on vocals which was basically art rock, with a classical music flavor to it. This is one of its best albums: Renaissance-Sceherazade and other stories https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuMHs7eQGiU 22:02 < SuicidalZerg> Somehow, I find it highly, highly unlikely that the government has the kind of storage space, or the manpower to store even 1/8th of the entire population's digital communications 22:03 -!- gForcer [~gForcer@host-254-176-107-208.midco.net] has quit [] 22:04 * Isarra throws 100TB worth of drives at SuicidalZerg. 22:04 < Isarra> That'll hold a bit, and it's pretty cheap. 22:04 * SuicidalZerg gladly accepts them and puts them in a RAID array 22:05 < Isarra> Weeell I probably broke them throwing them. 22:05 < Isarra> Sorry. 22:05 * Jasper_Deng one-ups Isarra with 256 EBEBB worth of SSD's 22:05 * Isarra one-ups Jasper_Deng by collapsing on him. 22:05 < wctaiwan> mareklug: not bad but Gryphon's better. 22:06 < mareklug> Jasper_Deng it is highly unlikely the government is deploying SSDs on its petabyte farms in Utah. 22:06 < wctaiwan> Jasper_Deng: what's EBEBB? 22:07 < Jasper_Deng> IIRC, wctaiwan, 2^128 22:07 < mareklug> wctaiwan are you gonna listen to more of it than 3 minutes? 22:07 < Isarra> Anyone here know how to use confluence? 22:08 < wctaiwan> I actually just paused it. 4:14 22:08 < wctaiwan> It does remind me of Gryphon. 22:08 < Isarra> Because I really don't and I'm too wonked to figure it out. o__o 22:08 < mareklug> Isarra what is this confluence you are writing of 22:08 -!- ihaveamac [~ihaveamac@unaffiliated/ihaveamac] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:08 < Isarra> The wiki thing. 22:08 < Isarra> I need to... add a page to a project and it's all weird and stuff. >.< 22:09 < Isarra> Like... mediawiki level of weird, but in different ways. 22:09 < Steven_Zhang> legoktm: dont like you anymore 22:09 < legoktm> What did I do? :( 22:09 < MJ94> legoktm: HE STEPPED ON YOU 22:09 < Steven_Zhang> pass rfa before I did. 22:09 < legoktm> o.O 22:09 < Isarra> Heeee apparently I'm a contractor. 22:09 < wctaiwan> omg canvassing 22:09 < Steven_Zhang> pfft 22:09 < wctaiwan> Isarra: are you getting paid? 22:09 < Isarra> No. 22:09 * Steven_Zhang is not at rfa 22:09 * legoktm huggles Steven_Zhang 22:09 < wctaiwan> then probably not >.> 22:10 * MJ94 pokes legoktm with a stick 22:10 < Isarra> There wasn't a contract, either. 22:10 < Steven_Zhang> 97%? 22:10 < Steven_Zhang> screw you :P 22:10 < mareklug> wctaiwan read the description here http://avaxhome.ws/music/rock/progressive_rock/Renaissance_Scheherazade_And_Other_Stories.html 22:10 < Isarra> But I'm definitely not an employee! And it says only contractors and employees can view this! 22:10 < wctaiwan> Steven_Zhang: plenty of time to derail it yet >.> <.< 22:10 < MJ94> Raper got 100%, Steven_Zhang 22:10 < MJ94> reaper** 22:10 < Steven_Zhang> LOL 22:10 * Isarra derails legoktm. 22:11 * MJ94 hangs head 22:11 -!- Mkdw [~Mkdw@d207-216-143-248.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #wikipedia-en 22:11 -!- Mkdw [~Mkdw@d207-216-143-248.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Changing host] 22:11 -!- Mkdw [~Mkdw@wikipedia/mkdw] has joined #wikipedia-en 22:11 < Steven_Zhang> just dont get more than 124 supports, kthnx 22:11 < MJ94> Steven_Zhang: why 22:11 < Steven_Zhang> that's what i got in my last rfa 22:11 * Isarra hugs Steven_Zhang. 22:11 < Steven_Zhang> 124/45/8 22:11 < Steven_Zhang> :P 22:11 < Isarra> RfA is fickle and cruel and ridiculous. 22:11 < Isarra> Clearly it needs more poorly mixed drinks. 22:12 < dtm> blam. 22:12 < kelapstick> more properly mixed drinks 22:12 < mareklug> Steven_Zhang why 45 opposes? did you maltreat a kitten? 22:12 < wctaiwan> I agree with at least "Merging rock music and a classical orchestra usually sounds like the rock band is playing in one room and the orchestra is playing in another" 22:12 < kelapstick> RfA would be much more interesting if everyone participating was juiced 22:12 < Steven_Zhang> I was banned in 2008 22:12 < kelapstick> although the same can be said for most things 22:12 < Steven_Zhang> and I don't have 724 FAs 22:12 < Steven_Zhang> then agani, legoktm has 0 GAs and 0 FAs 22:12 < Steven_Zhang> >_> 22:13 < Isarra> Like me! 22:13 < Isarra> Except unlike me, he actually does do other stuff. 22:13 < mareklug> Steven_Zhang legoktm would sail at any RfA already because he is a virgin in the controversy department 22:13 * Jasper_Deng keeps mum 22:13 * Isarra takes legoktm to ANI. 22:13 < mareklug> he would be perceived as a capable technical admin 22:14 * wctaiwan opposes for IRC cabal canvassing 22:14 -!- Aranda56 [~chatzilla@wikimedia/secret] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:14 < Isarra> Isn't legoktm an admin on mww? 22:14 < Jasper_Deng> yes 22:14 < Jasper_Deng> and on WD 22:16 < Steven_Zhang> lol 22:17 < Isarra> Technical. 22:19 * MJ94 suspects legoktm of sockpuppeteering 22:19 < Steven_Zhang> one day... 22:19 < Isarra> One day the earth will hatch and a baby space dragon will emerge from the shell. 22:20 < MJ94> Isarra: lar 22:20 < MJ94> liar 22:20 < Isarra> 'Sa truth. 22:20 < wctaiwan> pants on fire 22:20 * wctaiwan sets MJ94's pants on fire 22:20 < mareklug> Isarra or a Volswagen on dinosaur legs… https://www.dropbox.com/s/r4zlx2ayxan314r/Dinosaur-VWBeetleSculptureAtNKUphotoByMarekLug%40me.com.jpg 22:20 < Isarra> Whereas I'm not even wearing pants. 22:20 < MJ94> hot wctaiwan 22:21 < Isarra> Why are wikis so complicated? 22:23 < Isarra> MJ94: Whaaaat. 22:23 < Isarra> mareklug* 22:23 < Isarra> Sorry. 22:23 < mareklug> Isarra just click on it 22:23 < Isarra> I did. 22:23 < mareklug> and? 22:23 < Isarra> Whaaaaat. 22:24 < mareklug> it's nice, isn't it? for a university library art? 22:24 < Isarra> I suppose. 22:24 < Isarra> It made my brain try to turn inside out. 22:24 < mareklug> you wanted a space baby dragon, I gave you one. sort of. 22:25 < Isarra> Aye. 22:25 < Isarra> That you did. Sort of. 22:26 < MJ94> goodnight #wikipedia-en 22:27 < wctaiwan> night MJ94 22:27 < kelapstick> night 22:27 < Isarra> Confluence is bloody irritating. 22:28 < Isarra> I seriously hope mediawiki's visualeditor does not wind up this bloody awful. 22:28 < Isarra> Because good gods this is just... irritating. 22:30 -!- addihockey10 [~addihocke@wikimedia/Addihockey10] has joined #wikipedia-en 22:30 < MJ94> hey, wctaiwan - do you have time for a quick 5 min PM? 22:30 < wctaiwan> uh, sure 22:35 -!- Patar_knight [~chatzilla@wikipedia/Patar-knight] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:37 -!- Bronze [~Mark@unaffiliated/bronze] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:41 -!- M132T003C [~MTC@wikimedia/MTC] has joined #wikipedia-en 22:47 -!- ChrisGualtieri [ae3ebae3@wikipedia/ChrisGualtieri] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:48 -!- Seahorse [~Seahorse@wikipedia/Seahorseruler] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:49 -!- Seahorse [~Seahorse@wikipedia/Seahorseruler] has joined #wikipedia-en 22:51 -!- harej [~quassel@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 22:51 -!- Seahorse [~Seahorse@wikipedia/Seahorseruler] has quit [Client Quit] 22:57 < SigmaWP> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=553735354 22:57 < SigmaWP> Delete please 22:59 < mareklug> addihockey10 looks like Canucks are gonna drop the series to the Sharks 22:59 -!- Dcoetzee [~Dcoetzee@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:59 < addihockey10> Maybe 22:59 < legoktm> :DDDDD 22:59 < mareklug> it's Penguins/Blackhawks this year, baby 22:59 -!- Dcoetzee [~Dcoetzee@wikimedia/Dcoetzee] has joined #wikipedia-en 22:59 < legoktm> We're going to destroy the Canucks 23:00 < SigmaWP> Canadiennes 23:00 < SigmaWP> pour 23:00 < SigmaWP> le 23:00 < SigmaWP> gagner 23:00 < SigmaWP> idklol 23:00 < Jasper_Deng> SigmaWP: Les Canadiennes de Montreal? 23:00 < mareklug> Canadiennes is female Canadienes. And they are 1-2 against Senators anyway 23:00 < legoktm> also, the hawks suck 23:01 < mareklug> legoktm they will such all over Sharks' asses, if the two meet. 23:01 < mareklug> suck 23:01 < Jasper_Deng> you don't want to know what happened last year at such a confrontation, mareklug 23:01 < wctaiwan> no thanks for the mental image. 23:01 < mareklug> this is this year 23:01 < ToAruShiroiNeko> mire than 620 dead in bangladesh 23:03 < mareklug> The Minnesota Wild sent the Chicago Blackhawks to their first loss of the postseason, winning 3-2 in overtime <-- someone got lucky, or it would have been 0-3 23:10 -!- Kaptainen [~Kapyo@c-6e0771d5.012-113-6c756c1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:10 -!- Kaptainen [~Kapyo@c-6e0771d5.012-113-6c756c1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #wikipedia-en [] 23:11 * SigmaWP slaps Shirik with his coal balls 23:11 < SigmaWP> Don't template on me 23:11 < Shirik> I click decline button 23:11 < Shirik> it did the rest 23:11 < wctaiwan> so much gunk underneath the keys :x 23:11 < Shirik> I forgot it did that 23:12 < Shirik> that being said I fully agree it should be deleted 23:12 < Shirik> but not under CSD 23:12 < SigmaWP> I don't really mind the decline, mostly the template 23:12 < Shirik> like I said didn't intend to 23:13 < SigmaWP> yeah, yeah 23:13 < Shirik> I just hit the decline button 23:13 * SigmaWP wipes coal ball gunk off of Shirik 23:13 < wctaiwan> SigmaWP butthurt >>. 23:13 < wctaiwan> >.>* 23:13 < SigmaWP> Shirik: 'tis nothing to worry about 23:13 < SigmaWP> oh, thanks for the revert 23:14 < Shirik> here, have a dog: http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/failure_dog5.gif 23:14 < Shirik> I love this dog :) 23:14 < Shirik> reminds me of mine 23:15 -!- TheChance [~thechance@c-76-115-162-246.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:17 < SigmaWP> awww 23:17 < SigmaWP> Have a gif 23:17 < SigmaWP> http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/524/123/cf8.gif 23:24 < Steven_Zhang> hey SigmaWP <L3 23:24 -!- Keegan [~chatzilla@wikimedia/Keegan] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:24 < SigmaWP> What is that 23:24 < SigmaWP> A heart with a meat cleaver in it? 23:24 < SigmaWP> Sheesh 23:33 -!- Guerillero [~Gueriller@wikipedia/Guerillero] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:40 -!- Mr-ex777 [~chatzilla@202.82.11.104] has quit [Quit: PWNT] 23:44 -!- Mkdw [~Mkdw@wikipedia/mkdw] has quit [] 23:46 -!- kelapstick is now known as kelapstick|afk 23:48 -!- AnonDiss [~AnonDiss@1.145.195.173] has joined #wikipedia-en 23:52 < wctaiwan> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Crapper apt 23:54 < SigmaWP> get 23:55 < wctaiwan> ha-ha. 23:56 -!- Elduen [~elduen@unaffiliated/andorin] has quit [Quit: I'm the greatest pirate-hunter in the world! AUYYEAHHH] 23:58 -!- AnonDiss [~AnonDiss@1.145.195.173] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:58 -!- bjelleklang [~chris@wikipedia/Bjelleklang] has joined #wikipedia-en --- Log closed Mon May 06 00:00:28 2013